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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:34 pm
by Morf
Ungrin wrote:
Personally, I know what the game needs. It needs to be balanced as a whole, which is why me and my guild all play fester bomb sw's
Fixed it for you :lol:

Also let me say as someone who hasnt played order for quite some time, mara's are a joke and do need some tweaking.

Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:40 pm
by Ungrin
Morf wrote:
Ungrin wrote:
Personally, I know what the game needs. It needs to be balanced as a whole, which is why me and my guild all play fester bomb sw's
Fixed it for you :lol:

Also let me say as someone who hasnt played order for quite some time, mara's are a joke and do need some tweaking.
Well, I actually don't play fester except in keep defense. I actually play heal debuff with KA tactic. Actually, come to think of it, only 1 person in our guild runs fester.

Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:54 pm
by vorod
I remember the immunity to armor penetration combined with the high armor possible with RR80+ armor sets being one of the main issues. It made for a class that did great damage, had great utility and was very tanky. I have a Mara here and played one on live. They get crazy strong. I'm not asking for the class to get nerfed, I believe in buffs > nerfs. I think the other melee could use some lovin compared to Mara/Slayer.
perfect response! And you're exactly correct on why there were complaints at the highest levels. yeah, as a WH on live, after they were buffed, I just avoided them in T4 unless i knew it was a baddie, you couldn't beat them. I'm all for buffing other classes or counter-classes but then TTK can get dicey.

Re: [FACT] AAO is bugged. And what ?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:58 pm
by backrow
theOdinS0n wrote:Backrow do you have a link for that confirmed buff?

Balancing WL to Mara is silly because they aren't mirrors. The WL mirror Squig Header pet mechanic and the SW mirrors the Mara stance mechanic. Mara get extra stuff to balance that they don't get a pet and SW get extra stuff that Squig Headers don't get to balance they don't get a pet.

Coming on the forums to derail an AAO thread with Marauder whine is sad. I don't see Order running to the forums to talk about the 2-3k festering arrows you hypocrite.
no link, it was in WL discussion, big thread last week.

Re: [FACT] AAO is bugged. And what ?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:41 pm
by Greatwarden
Penril wrote:
Ungrin wrote:
Coryphaus wrote:all of that isnt on one stance though
That's your rebuttal? Are you not allowed to switch stances? Are you playing with 1 gimp arm and can't hit the button?

Talk about trolling.
I believe he meant that you can`t have all of that in one spec. Which is correct.

I agree though that Maras need some toning down (specifically, their survivability). But not unless you tone down Slayers too.
Just out of curiosity: how is Mara survivability and Slayer *something* in any way linked? Are the two classes spiritual twins that you can't effect one without needing to effect the other?

Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:58 pm
by Tesq
Let's talk back when slayer wont more spam undefitable aoe damage, with spamable shatter limbs, that for the above cannot be defended against and also do the same damage mara do ST --aoe.

Re: [FACT] AAO is bugged. And what ?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:01 pm
by Penril
Greatwarden wrote:
Just out of curiosity: how is Mara survivability and Slayer *something* in any way linked? Are the two classes spiritual twins that you can't effect one without needing to effect the other?
It's called "Realm balance".

Both are mDPS
Both are OP and better than the other mDPS in their realms

Another option would be to leave Mara/Slayers alone, and just buff Choppas/WLs (and maybe WHs/WEs?). But this would reduce TTK even more. It is simply easier to just ask for Mara/Slayer nerfs.

What we can all agree though is that Magus needs some serious nerfs.

Re: [FACT] AAO is bugged. And what ?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:07 pm
by Ungrin
Penril wrote:
Greatwarden wrote:
Just out of curiosity: how is Mara survivability and Slayer *something* in any way linked? Are the two classes spiritual twins that you can't effect one without needing to effect the other?
It's called "Realm balance".

Both are mDPS
Both are OP and better than the other mDPS in their realms

Another option would be to leave Mara/Slayers alone, and just buff Choppas/WLs (and maybe WHs/WEs?). But this would reduce TTK even more. It is simply easier to just ask for Mara/Slayer nerfs.

What we can all agree though is that Magus needs some serious nerfs.
Don't forget engineers you biased pig!

:lol:

Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:07 pm
by Coryphaus
I dont know about anyone else here but i dont want to go back to the age of 3s "lol your **** dead m9" that was late game t4

i dont want short ttk's

Re: [FACT] AAO is bugged. And what ?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:09 pm
by Azuzu
Ungrin wrote: Don't forget engineers you biased pig!

:lol:
Engi's can auto attack, Magus can't, devs favor Order, Orders OP!