Return of Reckoning

Vigfuss wrote:
The 6 man groups don't need the zerg, the zerg needs 6 mans.

This is correct.

Penril wrote:No. This will only bring OOG healers again.

to soloheal for leeching means you need to heal more than the rest.that was actually great, made healers work much better (for their own interest, yes) but i rather those healers than overextending ones spamming GHeal as mad without using a single hot.

Yet amusingly az asked the forum users if they were cool with making the changes to knight and chosen aura

And talked the forum users about make the pve drop changes

And asked the forum users about which t3 zone they want to see first


If the devs don't communicate via fourms how will they interact with their player base?

Coryphaus wrote:Yet amusingly az asked the forum users if they were cool with making the changes to knight and chosen aura

And talked the forum users about make the pve drop changes

And asked the forum users about which t3 zone they want to see first


If the devs don't communicate via fourms how will they interact with their player base?

Its not Aza asking around for T3, but Dana. Also the forum is filled with (dont hate me, since its obvious) lots of Idiots and its sometimes better to not ask them for their input at all. The Devs are keeping correspondece with players though, dont worry about that.

Vigfuss wrote:

Jaycub wrote: A strat a lot of premades use is to follow the zerg around and use them as protection while they rack up deathblows. Most of the time if you are good you can get more deathblows than they get as your dps can be more aggressive, and splitting that loot 6 ways rather than 24 is much better.

It's much more common for a 6 man group to have followers. Not the other way around. More often than not the 6 man is the tip of the spearhead and the zerg uses the safety of the area near the 6 man. Then if you decide to leave the area the zerg just dies, and you're not "playing for the realm". We always keep moving away from the zerg, but if they see us pushing order back they tend to pile on and help, and that's part of the game.

The 6 man groups don't need the zerg, the zerg needs 6 mans.

can be true in some cases, but a 6 man cant take on a full 24 man wb, the power gap isn't as crazy as it was in T4 ATM. If you want to maximize your drops you don't go after stragglers/small groups but you just hit the other realms zerg. I see a lot of 6 mans just picking of solo players and lowbie stragglers getting like 2 drops (worth anything) in an hour probably, which is extremely inefficient. It works well enough if you are solo or duo, but if you are doing 6 mans you need to get a lot more kills in to make up for more people rolling on gear etc...

As a 6 man you also have solo players gravitating towards you to try and steal kills, but I don't think a full zerg is going to follow you around unless they are lost or you are in their path.

i miss UMA and their 6 man - 9 man groups on the US servers... and yes zergs did follow them.. at least in the timezone i am in

but back on thread, if a wb does 99% of the damage and an out of party dps pops up with the final 10 health point damage , the current system means no one in the wb gets anything, is that right?

so if an oog dps gets morale up and drops it on a low hp group and gets 5 dbs the whole wb who has been beating up on them loses out? just checking if this would piss off a wb as much as it pisses off solo players / gankers that lose kills when a mindless zerg does it to them.

Currently i only play sc's , specifically due to the current nature of the rvr mechanic. Its not a gripe, i am perfectly happy playing in sc's only, but i cannot imagine that i am the only one who does not see any point in going in the lakes. If i go in the lakes, unless i act like a drone and follow a zerg, there is no reasonable prospect of any benefit from running solo. (and given how many people sit in WC's queuing for sc's then i really would be shocked if it is just me.).

out of group healers, for all that it pisses some people off, still keep people alive. DPS that roam solo have a prospect of getting rewards.. why shouldn't healers get the choice of playing solo?

bangkokeight wrote:i miss UMA and their 6 man - 9 man groups on the US servers... and yes zergs did follow them.. at least in the timezone i am in

but back on thread, if a wb does 99% of the damage and an out of party dps pops up with the final 10 health point damage , the current system means no one in the wb gets anything, is that right?

so if an oog dps gets morale up and drops it on a low hp group and gets 5 dbs the whole wb who has been beating up on them loses out? just checking if this would piss off a wb as much as it pisses off solo players / gankers that lose kills when a mindless zerg does it to them.

Currently i only play sc's , specifically due to the current nature of the rvr mechanic. Its not a gripe, i am perfectly happy playing in sc's only, but i cannot imagine that i am the only one who does not see any point in going in the lakes. If i go in the lakes, unless i act like a drone and follow a zerg, there is no reasonable prospect of any benefit from running solo. (and given how many people sit in WC's queuing for sc's then i really would be shocked if it is just me.).

out of group healers, for all that it pisses some people off, still keep people alive. DPS that roam solo have a prospect of getting rewards.. why shouldn't healers get the choice of playing solo?

+1 well put
but i do not miss getting farmed by uma them choke piont ob in t4 well played

Totally xp, rr & inf for everyone who participated in the kill.
As a healer I always heal those in and those out of my group. Especially in RvR fights.
Pls don`t penalize group healers who also crossheal, because some healers go solo.

I voted for everyone because I have missed a lot of xp/rr/inf since the very beginning when some guy just gave the last hit in a fight which lasted maybe 2-3mins. OOG healing is actually a nice way to have healers around, who otherwise cannot get kills on their own. I was also doing this and honed my skills as a healer, since group heal spam was out of the question. Please implement this, as well as point sharing from mobs (keep lord, guards in scens and wc's, normal mobs, FALL DAMAGE). Less people will get unpunihed around.