Return of Reckoning

Ragnaroek93 wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 4:21 pm

Brew wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:08 pm

Ragnaroek93 wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:09 pm T1 is super fun, T1 and T2 scenarios are super fun and then there's T2 RvR where you're just worthless canon fodder because of an unreasonable high gear powercreep.

Don't worry most lvl 40s are useless cannon fodder WITH BiS gear, just focus on improving your gameplay or it won't matter what gear you have.

Wrong, gear matters a **** ton, regardless if you're good or bad lol.

kleinbuchstabe wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:30 pm Guide for New Players in a nutshell

After T1, spend your time grinding XP by farming the PvE sets with PQs, first Mayhem Set, then Ruin Set. while you do that, que for SC until you hit 40.

Then do PvE Instances:
4x Gundbad: 4 days lockout timer in total. = Full Redeye set (some good Jewelry droping here )
4x City Instances: 1 hour per run. 4 days lockout timer in total. = Full sentinel set (+ very good Jewelry with Sentinel Set bonus) + weapons
4x Hunters Vale: 30min - 1 hour per run. 4 Days lockout timer in total. = Full Vale Walker Set (+ another good jewlery with VW Set Bounus) + Cloak
4x Bastion Stair: 1,5 -2 hours per run. 4 Days lockout timer in total. = Full Bloodlord Set (+ another good Jewelry. f.e. with life reg, or parry strike through) + weapons

After that, you are on the level of Invader PvP Set, wich is the last set before endgear Sets like Warlord or Sov. So even Dps or Offtanks are good geared at this point. For healers or Def tanks, Vale Walker Set could be allready good enough. The PvE Set jewlery can be worth it still in engear. Dont miss to combine the sets for min max your stats.

In total, you need (more or less):
Few days to finish T1.
1 Week to reach lvl 40 and farm the PQ Sets.
16 days to finish the Instances, if you do 1 run per day.

So, like i said more or less, after 1 Month, you are ready to play the game without the painfull lvl16-40 rvr situation, because you can skip it totally by spending the time with some PvE. Its really worth it and you will have more fun that way. And dont worry about the lack of renown, until lvl 60 it goes really fast. And you will get it more easy and with more fun, when you start farming it with good equipment

Estufa wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 3:25 pm You can quite literally lvl every single class in retail wow to max and gear everyone out in bis gear + enchants before you could get bis gear on a single RoR toon. This 'progression' system is bad for pve games, for a 'pvp' mmo it's simply egregious. If your game can't keep players engaged on stint of the actual gameplay/pvp, you have some serious problems.

kleinbuchstabe wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:30 pm Guide for New Players in a nutshell

After T1, spend your time grinding XP by farming the PvE sets with PQs, first Mayhem Set, then Ruin Set. while you do that, que for SC until you hit 40.

Then do PvE Instances:
4x Gundbad: 4 days lockout timer in total. = Full Redeye set (some good Jewelry droping here )
4x City Instances: 1 hour per run. 4 days lockout timer in total. = Full sentinel set (+ very good Jewelry with Sentinel Set bonus) + weapons
4x Hunters Vale: 30min - 1 hour per run. 4 Days lockout timer in total. = Full Vale Walker Set (+ another good jewlery with VW Set Bounus) + Cloak
4x Bastion Stair: 1,5 -2 hours per run. 4 Days lockout timer in total. = Full Bloodlord Set (+ another good Jewelry. f.e. with life reg, or parry strike through) + weapons

After that, you are on the level of Invader PvP Set, wich is the last set before endgear Sets like Warlord or Sov. So even Dps or Offtanks are good geared at this point. For healers or Def tanks, Vale Walker Set could be allready good enough. The PvE Set jewlery can be worth it still in engear. Dont miss to combine the sets for min max your stats.

In total, you need (more or less):
Few days to finish T1.
1 Week to reach lvl 40 and farm the PQ Sets.
16 days to finish the Instances, if you do 1 run per day.

So, like i said more or less, after 1 Month, you are ready to play the game without the painfull lvl16-40 rvr situation, because you can skip it totally by spending the time with some PvE. Its really worth it and you will have more fun that way. And dont worry about the lack of renown, until lvl 60 it goes really fast. And you will get it more easy and with more fun, when you start farming it with good equipment

Lyra2 wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:05 pm

Estufa wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 3:25 pm You can quite literally lvl every single class in retail wow to max and gear everyone out in bis gear + enchants before you could get bis gear on a single RoR toon. This 'progression' system is bad for pve games, for a 'pvp' mmo it's simply egregious. If your game can't keep players engaged on stint of the actual gameplay/pvp, you have some serious problems.

one month is enough to get bis in both games. you have some serious problems.

Ragnaroek93 wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:11 pm How do you get to rr80 in a month? And gearing in WoW is MUCH faster, it's not even in the same ballpark.

Hazmy wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:21 pm

Ragnaroek93 wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:11 pm How do you get to rr80 in a month? And gearing in WoW is MUCH faster, it's not even in the same ballpark.

By playing a lot generally and participating in quality RvR activity, meaning joining guild warbands that are successful. I am mostly leading pug warbands and I am RR 64 in 6 days of overall playtime and also in full Bloodlord gear. If I joined Guild warbands I could be maybe 70 already

Ragnaroek93 wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:11 pm

kleinbuchstabe wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:30 pm Guide for New Players in a nutshell

After T1, spend your time grinding XP by farming the PvE sets with PQs, first Mayhem Set, then Ruin Set. while you do that, que for SC until you hit 40.

Then do PvE Instances:
4x Gundbad: 4 days lockout timer in total. = Full Redeye set (some good Jewelry droping here )
4x City Instances: 1 hour per run. 4 days lockout timer in total. = Full sentinel set (+ very good Jewelry with Sentinel Set bonus) + weapons
4x Hunters Vale: 30min - 1 hour per run. 4 Days lockout timer in total. = Full Vale Walker Set (+ another good jewlery with VW Set Bounus) + Cloak
4x Bastion Stair: 1,5 -2 hours per run. 4 Days lockout timer in total. = Full Bloodlord Set (+ another good Jewelry. f.e. with life reg, or parry strike through) + weapons

After that, you are on the level of Invader PvP Set, wich is the last set before endgear Sets like Warlord or Sov. So even Dps or Offtanks are good geared at this point. For healers or Def tanks, Vale Walker Set could be allready good enough. The PvE Set jewlery can be worth it still in engear. Dont miss to combine the sets for min max your stats.

In total, you need (more or less):
Few days to finish T1.
1 Week to reach lvl 40 and farm the PQ Sets.
16 days to finish the Instances, if you do 1 run per day.

So, like i said more or less, after 1 Month, you are ready to play the game without the painfull lvl16-40 rvr situation, because you can skip it totally by spending the time with some PvE. Its really worth it and you will have more fun that way. And dont worry about the lack of renown, until lvl 60 it goes really fast. And you will get it more easy and with more fun, when you start farming it with good equipment

Doing 16 dungeons is a lot, that's easily 30 hours if you also consider the time it takes to find a group (probably very hard outside of prime time) and that's generous and assumes that you have a 100% success rate which I heavily doubt when pugging. And I don't want to devalue the PvE content, there are lots of people who enjoy it but I do not and it's not the reason why I've picked up the game.

Lyra2 wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:05 pm

Estufa wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 3:25 pm You can quite literally lvl every single class in retail wow to max and gear everyone out in bis gear + enchants before you could get bis gear on a single RoR toon. This 'progression' system is bad for pve games, for a 'pvp' mmo it's simply egregious. If your game can't keep players engaged on stint of the actual gameplay/pvp, you have some serious problems.

one month is enough to get bis in both games. you have some serious problems.

How do you get to rr80 in a month? And gearing in WoW is MUCH faster, it's not even in the same ballpark.

Estufa wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 6:13 pmYeah retail wow 1-max lvl in 3 hours if you use guides. And at the start of a pvp season everyone has the same honor gear that takes less than a few hours to get + as little at 30 mins of upkeep for conquest gear. If you start late the catchup mechanics are still incredibly fast.

And with all that people still complain because of how overly complicated it can feel for new players. RoR is just on a level of egregious absurdity that is comical.

Hazmy wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:21 pm

Ragnaroek93 wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:11 pm How do you get to rr80 in a month? And gearing in WoW is MUCH faster, it's not even in the same ballpark.

By playing a lot generally and participating in quality RvR activity, meaning joining guild warbands that are successful. I am mostly leading pug warbands and I am RR 64 in 6 days of overall playtime and also in full Bloodlord gear. If I joined Guild warbands I could be maybe 70 already