Assault Shadow Warrior AoE Detaunt?

[Tisaya]

You need to slot a tactic for AOE detaunt but it also lasts the full duration instead of 5 seconds, like mdps detaunt. If a WL had such tactic, I would at least consider it.

[Farrul]

You need to slot a tactic for AOE detaunt but it also lasts the full duration instead of 5 seconds, like mdps detaunt. If a WL had such tactic, I would at least consider it.

Submission(WL 5 sec/ 10 sec cd) melee detaunt has a wider cone of 30 feet aoe application and it does not need to be targeted.

Honestly though i do not think copying abilities which is kinda lame to be honest and makes classes less unique and interesting overall is a good idea, instead the devs imho should aim to fix the core issue, a hybrid spec not working well.

[saiho]

I dont think ASW Lacks damage in any way shape or form, it just lacks utility. Especially after they lost the movement speed on Swift Slashes, or the KD or even the auto attack damage buff on Assault stance list goes on and on.

But one thing I feel is severely overlooked, is an AoE Detaunt for Asasult Shadow Warrior, every other melee has it for a reason. Because you really cannot survive without it, I wonder if theres any way for the devs to implement an AOE Detaunt for ASW WIthout adding it for Ranged SW.

I know they have the tactic for it, but they cannot spare the tactic slot to have something that is already baseline for every other melee


Make it so that you gain AOE Detaunt baseline if you have majority points specced into Assault Mastery Tree?

Give them a new ability thats only usable in assault stance which is an aoe detaunt, but the detaunt debuff goes away on every target once you swap stances? (This ones a bit iffy because u could become very tanky as a ranged SW by sitting in ASW while getting trained.)


Honestly Im not sure exactly how to properly implement something like this without giving it to the other two specs, but I do believe it something that could greatly benefit ASW While also not making them an overpowered mess, because as we know rn. They are pure hot **** garbanzo. Im sure ACTUAL Developers could do a better job than me regarding implementations of things and how their own code works.

ASW lost tons of survivability in the latest WS -> INI change ( more collateral damage that devs do not consider). I mean ASW easily rolls with 900WS in BIS so this was a significant defensive nerf to the spec , but this is just the latest of nerfs that has been going on for years.

Let's think about this.

ASW used to have 4,5-5K armor but then armor talismans were nerfed.

ASW used to have broadhead arrow from Assult stance, then that got removed. Broadhead arrow used to stack 3 x , removed.

ASW 60% auto damage removed in the wakes of the ability rework patch.

Now interestingly with all those added, ASW never was considered afaik OP by anyone at the time. Why? Because ultimately it is a melee --off spec without the necessary melee tools nor any aoe melee capabilities to truly shine.

Hence i think your post ( although i do understand where this comes from , trying to be reasonable) is aiming way to low, ASW is not an acceptable spec at this point in time and aoe detaunt would not do that much to change this, it will still remain the red headed stepchild of the Order DPS choices.

I think what the ASW truly need is a major overhaul in the upcoming dps balance patches.

Everyone with even a minor interest in ASW Is hoping for an overhaul, but yes. I was trying to aim as low as possible just to see the reaction and feasibility on the subject of even granting ASW a minor buff. Seems like some peolpe were ADAMANTLY against it though.