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[what63]

Split arrows -20% of dmg to spirals. Insane buff indeed

You seem incapable of grasping the concept that actual base damages, stat modifiers and weapon DPS modifiers can be changed. Not every single change to a class are on a tactic or ability functionality level.

But what makes this even more ridiculous, is that split arrows originally came with a 30% damage debuff

[Sulorie]

Oh we don't know how to play pvp games. It's sad. Thanks Sever1n for this post.

We leave. Order can play solo with their high pvp exp.

Is he right or just rude? :^)

[Akalukz]

Here we go again, another round of destro whining. So rich, coming from the side that has 2 immunity-ignoring AOE punts while the other one has 0

yup because those are melting people. lol poor argument.

[Everdin]

I'm usually not a conspiracy theorist, but yep the pattern seems to repeat itself last few months- several posters spam forum with how a specific class is OP, and then eventually the class gets nerfed. Def WE which is pretty unplayable now- no dmg vs any kind of defense, sh nerf, and it looks like chosen is the next one in the line. And now I guess they are starting to work on magus, to prepare ground for after chosen gets nerfed.

Unplayable as every other totally def speced dps? Just because people get used to "I am unkillable with full dps" doesn't mean this should be the way to go. It was ridiculous.

Unplayable as having the dmg of def dps healer/tank.

People "gather" to spam about classes can be a coordinated strike against this class or, whats more likely, something that is absolut broken and many people observe this and trying to fix it.

Except that what they actually complain about is in no way broken, like the sham m1, which is less disabling than many 3+ sec nonmoral abilities on several classes. Like say rp/zealot 6 sec stagger which requires no moral building. However is gets repeatedly presented like absolut broken, until the class/ ability gets nerfed- yep pretty much looks like a coordinated strike against this class.

A little bit over the top, but think about this example:
Brightwizards will get a ability that do a 200ft aoe damage that hits for 3,5k, no cooldown, no casttime, no combustion, not defendable, ignoring resistance.

If a lot of people would argue against this ability, would this be a coordinated movement to destroy order, or just common sense?

Lets take another example. Lets take an ability which requires building moral, can only be used once per 60 sec, and doesn't even disables the other side in any way, and yet a lot of people would argue against this ability. Would this be a common sense, or just a coordinated movement to destroy destro?

What do you think, how many damage does a full regn/toughness slayer/wl do?

Shaman morale is more then just that, and I'm pretty sure you know it, while not hindering like a stagger, what is a very strange comparsion btw, it is a very big damage component on a target trying to move away from e.g. an assist train, stagge would be totaly lol in this situation. Not wanting to talk a lot about solo play here, but it's very strong in both, following an enemy, or running away from an enemy, you force him to stop or die, given to a range dps that can do a good amount of damage (dots) while moving

[Sever1n]

I invoke moderators. This post have zero purpose beside make bad impresion of class to affect devs logic In future reworks, conspiracy theories, and now straight up trolling.

[Zxul]

What do you think, how many damage does a full regn/toughness slayer/wl do?

More than a full regn/toughness WE.

Shaman morale is more then just that, and I'm pretty sure you know it, while not hindering like a stagger, what is a very strange comparsion btw, it is a very big damage component on a target trying to move away from e.g. an assist train, stagge would be totaly lol in this situation. Not wanting to talk a lot about solo play here, but it's very strong in both, following an enemy, or running away from an enemy, you force him to stop or die, given to a range dps that can do a good amount of damage (dots) while moving

Shaman morale does 600 total dmg over 2 sec on anyone who stops for 3 sec- compared for example to wl morale which does 900 dmg, and forces the other side to stop for 5 sec.

And indeed, stagger has many possible other uses as well, like for example fully stopping all healing from a healer for 6 sec, while sham morale has no other uses.

And about "stop or die", actually going back to wl, 5 sec root- comparing to 3 sec voluntary stop sham morale- has a lot more of an effect, when it is on a class with a broken OP mobility- pounce- and with a broken OP burst which can bring even defensively specced targets from 100% to 0% in 3 sec.

[Everdin]

What do you think, how many damage does a full regn/toughness slayer/wl do?

More than a full regn/toughness WE.

Shaman morale is more then just that, and I'm pretty sure you know it, while not hindering like a stagger, what is a very strange comparsion btw, it is a very big damage component on a target trying to move away from e.g. an assist train, stagge would be totaly lol in this situation. Not wanting to talk a lot about solo play here, but it's very strong in both, following an enemy, or running away from an enemy, you force him to stop or die, given to a range dps that can do a good amount of damage (dots) while moving

Shaman morale does 600 total dmg over 2 sec on anyone who stops for 3 sec- compared for example to wl morale which does 900 dmg, and forces the other side to stop for 5 sec.

And indeed, stagger has many possible other uses as well, like for example fully stopping all healing from a healer for 6 sec, while sham morale has no other uses.

And about "stop or die", actually going back to wl, 5 sec root- comparing to 3 sec voluntary stop sham morale- has a lot more of an effect, when it is on a class with a broken OP mobility- pounce- and with a broken OP burst which can bring even defensively specced targets from 100% to 0% in 3 sec.

Nothing more to say here, lol People like you throwing around unproofen just wrong claims trying to derail all future discussion about balancing this game are cancer for the game and destroy it much faster then any ws/parry path

[what63]

I invoke moderators. This post have zero purpose beside make bad impresion of class to affect devs logic In future reworks, conspiracy theories, and now straight up trolling.

I mean, all you had to do was to argue any real point put forth instead of attempting to bomb the thread, and we'd have almost no trolling in it.

[Sulorie]

Shaman morale is more then just that, and I'm pretty sure you know it, while not hindering like a stagger, what is a very strange comparsion btw, it is a very big damage component on a target trying to move away from e.g. an assist train, stagge would be totaly lol in this situation. Not wanting to talk a lot about solo play here, but it's very strong in both, following an enemy, or running away from an enemy, you force him to stop or die, given to a range dps that can do a good amount of damage (dots) while moving

Tbh, when an assist train follows you, chances are you are not alone as well. You just move no matter what and your healers keep you up.
When enemy team is in melee range already to hit you with regular skills, just stop and wait 3 seconds, it's like champ challenge, just shorter with the option to move.
If you are out of melee range, just run and your support will take care of the damage ticks, which are easy to heal.
The moral becomes nasty, when you have no support and still feel forced to keep running.
It's the shaman signature ability and in like 9/10 cases players just wait the timer. You can already guess it, I see no issue with it.

[Bozzax]

Just imagine how op a 9s M1 root would be? I mean luckily this isn’t commonly available