Return of Reckoning

CountTalabecland wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:40 pm Why would anyone xrealm when doing pvdoor gives rewards?

Weekly medals give at least 150 for running through empty zones plus bags.

Losing gives you nothing.

Unless they shift the RvR system, I don't see any of this changing.

Because its fun playing with an organized wb on the underdog side i mean you will die but you will allthough kill a lot. For me atleast good fights are way more important than crests and renown. The only thing i will never understand is why the side with like 40+ aao still blobs. Would be nice if more wb leaders would start to roam a bit more and to blob a bit less but that will probably never happen.

could be worth also limiting number of bags droped for winning team to that of losing team, so if u pvd a zone dont expect free bag rolls.

I know this anti-xrealm suggesting causes a lot of xrealmers to get really salty when they've been exploiting it for so long and don't want to have their exploit be taken away.. but those who say 'just make a new account' That's fine, at least xrealmers will now have to start new accounts from scratch if they want to keep exploiting it. Just make the timer 1 week instead of 1 hour and the problem will be solved, making which side you choose to play on actually meaningful.

Over time many will make new accounts but still, it's a good deterrent imo, not a solution just a deterrent.

Pure760 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:02 am I know this anti-xrealm suggesting causes a lot of xrealmers to get really salty when they've been exploiting it for so long and don't want to have their exploit be taken away.. but those who say 'just make a new account' That's fine, at least xrealmers will now have to start new accounts from scratch if they want to keep exploiting it. Just make the timer 1 week instead of 1 hour and the problem will be solved, making which side you choose to play on actually meaningful.

Over time many will make new accounts but still, it's a good deterrent imo, not a solution just a deterrent.

And what happens if one side is overpopulated and the other isn't? That means nobody can switch for several hours/a week. This suggestion would precipitate the very thing it intends to stop. Massive population imbalances/swings causing one side to get zerg'd. Again I reiterate the point. Xrealming isn't the problem, Xrealming for the wrong reasons is. People riding a zerg wave to get easy bags/kills is what needs to be dealt with. Not people switching side to balance the population.

Scottx125 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:06 am [..]

And what happens if one side is overpopulated and the other isn't? That means nobody can switch for several hours/a week. This suggestion would precipitate the very thing it intends to stop. Massive population imbalances/swings causing one side to get zerg'd. Again I reiterate the point. Xrealming isn't the problem, Xrealming for the wrong reasons is. People riding a zerg wave to get easy bags/kills is what needs to be dealt with. Not people switching side to balance the population.
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When im reading such posts, they sounds so beautyfull, this fairytales about many "Defender of the weak" joining for the earn comsic balance between Chaos and Order:))
But in reality of ROR, this heroes are just gathering pug/solos/lowbies in one place - especially under fort, then switched on weakers side and butchered all the lambs:))

X-realmers shoul be caged for week, bored to the dead on dominating side and after such short lesson we will have healtier and far less toxic gam, just try it and watch .....

People would'nt go 'oh my side is currently crushing the other side, better xrealm to balance it and probably get crushed with them!' That makes no sense. I've always been destro since live and think order is lame cuz they all look the same and have pink underwear, no reason for me to xrealm.

First, it doesn't mean that everyone does it.
Second, the people who will do it are essentially solo players, PUG players who do not weigh heavily in the progress of the campaign.
Third, why punish players who change faction for balancing, when the problem is elsewhere (often linked to a lack of involvement on the part of players of the dominated faction) ?

CyunUnderis wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:10 am First, it doesn't mean that everyone does it.
Second, the people who will do it are essentially solo players, PUG players who do not weigh heavily in the progress of the campaign.
Third, why punish players who change faction for balancing, when the problem is elsewhere (often linked to a lack of involvement on the part of players of the dominated faction) ?

People don't do it for balance, they do it to make warcrests easily. They do it for imbalance. There might be like 1 or 2 people that do it for balance because they're all 'high and mighty' but I'm pretty certain that's just an excuse the xrealm exploiters use so that their free ride doesn't get nerfed.

Pure760 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:15 am People don't do it for balance, they do it to make warcrests easily. They do it for imbalance. There might be like 1 or 2 people that do it for balance because they're all 'high and mighty' but I'm pretty certain that's just an excuse the xrealm exploiters use so that their free ride doesn't get nerfed.

I see that the discussion with you is impossible.

I lead a 12-men, I do it for balance and for the AAO. I know some guilds that also do it for the same reason.

How are you involve with your realm when your faction is dominating ? You zerg surfing ? Leeching as much as possible ? What about when your faction is dominated ? Do you try to organize your realm by doing 6/12-men (or more) ?

CyunUnderis wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:10 am First, it doesn't mean that everyone does it.
Second, the people who will do it are essentially solo players, PUG players who do not weigh heavily in the progress of the campaign.
Third, why punish players who change faction for balancing, when the problem is elsewhere (often linked to a lack of involvement on the part of players of the dominated faction) ?

I never in my life see a Unicorn, Yeti, Cthulhu and "players who change faction for balancing". When it started - pls post on forum.
What I witnessed- WB barking on 4-5 ppl pushed to wc, and prefer to be killed from warcamp guardians the let this soloers play on rvr.
Sweeeet !