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Re: Leveling sc toxic and frustrating

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:45 pm
by Sulorie
shoelessHN wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:42 pm New flag mechanics broke a lot of scenarios so that's not helping.
In what sense? That you can't no longer turtle on a flag with a bunch of crossguarding tanks and prevent cap?

Re: Leveling sc toxic and frustrating

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:35 am
by shoelessHN
Sulorie wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:45 pm
shoelessHN wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:42 pm New flag mechanics broke a lot of scenarios so that's not helping.
In what sense? That you can't no longer turtle on a flag with a bunch of crossguarding tanks and prevent cap?
You apparently didn't play the weekend scenario or try to complete the objectives for the event. The fact the next flags arent locked for 20-30s before being open for cap is bad mechanics.

This week khaines embrace is a blacklist scenario. You could at least cap the flag before. Had plenty of solo caps using shield wall on both a knight and chosen in the last weekend event. Now if it's remotely even it just ends 150-100 after 15minutes. Complete waste of time.

Re: Leveling sc toxic and frustrating

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:47 am
by Omegus
shoelessHN wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:35 am
Sulorie wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:45 pm
shoelessHN wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:42 pm New flag mechanics broke a lot of scenarios so that's not helping.
In what sense? That you can't no longer turtle on a flag with a bunch of crossguarding tanks and prevent cap?
You apparently didn't play the weekend scenario or try to complete the objectives for the event. The fact the next flags arent locked for 20-30s before being open for cap is bad mechanics.

This week khaines embrace is a blacklist scenario. You could at least cap the flag before. Had plenty of solo caps using shield wall on both a knight and chosen in the last weekend event. Now if it's remotely even it just ends 150-100 after 15minutes. Complete waste of time.
There's a difference between "bad mechanics" and bugs: https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/19948

Re: Leveling sc toxic and frustrating

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:25 am
by shoelessHN
Omegus wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:47 am
shoelessHN wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:35 am
Sulorie wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:45 pm

In what sense? That you can't no longer turtle on a flag with a bunch of crossguarding tanks and prevent cap?
You apparently didn't play the weekend scenario or try to complete the objectives for the event. The fact the next flags arent locked for 20-30s before being open for cap is bad mechanics.

This week khaines embrace is a blacklist scenario. You could at least cap the flag before. Had plenty of solo caps using shield wall on both a knight and chosen in the last weekend event. Now if it's remotely even it just ends 150-100 after 15minutes. Complete waste of time.
There's a difference between "bad mechanics" and bugs: https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/19948
Removing a needed mechanic (the lock of next BO) is bad mechanics. And any test of this change before going live would have revealed it.

Only crediting the people standing directly on the flag with the cap and not the people supporting the cap from distance (healer, ranged dps, whatever) is bad mechanics.

Re: Leveling sc toxic and frustrating

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:06 am
by rejndjer
shoelessHN wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:25 am

Only crediting the people standing directly on the flag with the cap and not the people supporting the cap from distance (healer, ranged dps, whatever) is bad mechanics.
i'd agree with this. but tanks can't get top dps/DBs/heals, so maybe it's intended to also boost contribution for tanks in rvr.

Re: Leveling sc toxic and frustrating

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:01 am
by areandar
Secrets wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:06 pm
Omegus wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:33 pm
Secrets wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:47 pm

One thing Dalen and I talked about was reworking when abilities are granted.
Hopefully this includes getting group heal and challenge moved to rank 16! I think this has been a request for years (whenever T2/T3 scens starting at R16 was implemented).
If any of this is implemented, you'll hear it through the community management team. But it's been brought up internally at least.
do note i only mean in scenarios and in bolster its frustrating basicly someone having acces to skills and more tactic slots cause ur lower lvl. if u wanna make it fair give em when bolsterd acces to all that its there to that certain bolster lvl.

Re: Leveling sc toxic and frustrating

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:07 pm
by Sulorie
areandar wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:01 am ...bolster its frustrating basicly someone having acces to skills and more tactic slots cause ur lower lvl. if u wanna make it fair give em when bolsterd acces to all that its there to that certain bolster lvl.
No, this would be unfair, as equal number of skills/tactic slots and bolster on top is too strong.
What is the purpose of leveling, when you are stronger the lower your rank is.

Re: Leveling sc toxic and frustrating

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:50 pm
by Meliannia
Sulorie wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:55 pm
Meliannia wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:56 am

it gives them all the advantage of being able to stay in 32 to 39 premade farming scens for a significantly longer time as the xp scroll reduces their xp on winning
you can stay around facestomping lowbies 47-0 kills 500-0 points for another 1month because of the scroll
Your numbers, pulled out of nowhere, never get old, no?
You not knowing Instructor's Boon scroll reduces xp so you can thus stay in the 30s bracket for a longer period is your ignorance not my imagination.

Re: Leveling sc toxic and frustrating

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:56 pm
by Sulorie
Meliannia wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:50 pm


You not knowing Instructor's Boon scroll reduces xp so you can thus stay in the 30s bracket for a longer period is your ignorance not my imagination.
You missed the topic entirely.
What in combat advantage the scrolls give you in each SC?
Without scroll player X is gone sooner and player Y takes the spot, nothing changes for the overall outcome in t2-3 SC. You will just have more low ranks in t4 SC.