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diegomess
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#41 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:18 pm

o damn and i was wrong, i thought knight left tree 13 point was arching swing like BG equivalent but you actually get that for free!!, you have another utility "staggering impact"??? damn knight is so good, it may be the best 2h tank in the game actually.

please buff chosen rending blade and change corruptive power for feed on the weary useless tactic
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#42 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:19 pm

diegomess wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:53 pm
Battlefield wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:40 pm
diegomess wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:30 pm

yes but no believe me, almost every chosen takes the mid tree for the knockdown... the right discord tree is very underrated, I am one of the few that takes 13 point in discord.

also the only utility 2h chosen has is in the mid snb tree "corruptive power" which is the ranked build. So yeah is very uncommon to pick 13 points in discord and get strong wound debuff.

As for SNB? 13 points in mid tree then prob they would take quake, or like you like to say go for the daemonclaw + 50% parry, then they dont spend a single point in discord.

So yeah usually like 90% of the time knight has a stronger wound debuff.
This 2h Kotbs' s build for premade or ranked and Chosen always should take heal debuff aura or it's bad, because it's incoming heal debuff. (Kotbs has outcoming)

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7 points vs 5 points , the differences of wounds debuff are minimal but Chosen can be with shield and range 25ft Kotbs vs 20ft Chosen. Sorry but it's bullshit.
As i said chosen takes the mid tree in ranked cuz they need knockdown and corruptive power tactic, also left tree to gain more crit and rending blade so it procs more often... no one goes for right tree, also heal debuff aura doesnt stack with any mdps stronger heal debuff skill so its useless... that aura is useful against sc pugs but thats it, you know what does stack with other heal bonuses tho? knight 10% heal buff... or was it 15%?.

You may have more fun with chosen because you are doing more damage and you look amazing but if you think you are not doing much for your team as a knight?? then with chosen you will feel its even worse.
Man, if you don't take it incoming heal debuff aura, it does not mean that other Chosen will do the same, this is too important thing for 6vs6 battles !

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Also 1 more build without Sov 2points

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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#43 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:31 pm

diegomess wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:18 pm o damn and i was wrong, i thought knight left tree 13 point was arching swing like BG equivalent but you actually get that for free!!, you have another utility "staggering impact"??? damn knight is so good, it may be the best 2h tank in the game actually.

please buff chosen rending blade and change corruptive power for feed on the weary useless tactic
What??? Nothing to say but need to say something? :lol: Yesterday 2h Chosen
killed 2 times high rr SM under my guard, was some WH also but he ran away and
we could not to kill him! I'm playing Snb Kotbs and if i had 2H spec i would be dead too !
I have 80rr+ Chosen too btw, it's one of my first char here on Ror...
I can go to Destr back but Kotbs sucks now, this is very sad !
Funny 1 thing, Runefang tactic it was a feature of the Kotbs only but similar tactic was added to Chosen and only Chosen now using it constantly but Kotbs not, because not enough points to reach and good parry !

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diegomess
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#44 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:05 pm

Battlefield wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:31 pm
diegomess wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:18 pm o damn and i was wrong, i thought knight left tree 13 point was arching swing like BG equivalent but you actually get that for free!!, you have another utility "staggering impact"??? damn knight is so good, it may be the best 2h tank in the game actually.

please buff chosen rending blade and change corruptive power for feed on the weary useless tactic
What??? Nothing to say but need to say something? :lol: Yesterday 2h Chosen
killed 2 times high rr SM under my guard, was some WH also but he ran away and
we could not to kill him! I'm playing Snb Kotbs and if i had 2H spec i would be dead too !
I have 80rr+ Chosen too btw, it's one of my first char here on Ror...
I can go to Destr back but Kotbs sucks now, this is very sad !
Funny 1 thing, Runefang tactic it was a feature of the Kotbs only but similar tactic was added to Chosen and only Chosen now using it constantly but Kotbs not, because not enough points to reach and good parry !
classic regentard chosen then, beefy stats chosen does well against other tanks, still in orvr or ranked knight will do more.

I said i agree that knight needs some dmg to make it fun but then you need to lose utility or give something to chosen.

Also funny they gave 2hchosens cripplin strikes to SM (pretty sure), the peculiar thing chosen had... now chosen is only know by his parry buff and spirit dmg, which has been nerfed already.
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#45 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:08 pm

Any buff to Knight would need to be high in the Conquest tree to cause a decision between the other two trees (which house the knockdown and Focused Mending). Since a player could not grab all the best stuff in the same spec then, you have no risk of creating an overpowered build (there simply are not enough mastery points to do it).
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#46 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:04 am

Rydiak wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:08 pm Any buff to Knight would need to be high in the Conquest tree to cause a decision between the other two trees (which house the knockdown and Focused Mending). Since a player could not grab all the best stuff in the same spec then, you have no risk of creating an overpowered build (there simply are not enough mastery points to do it).
Yep, but after 2h nerf I'm playing only SnB Kotbs now and compared with SnB Chosen and i want too Runefang proc with shield (needs block trigger cause low parry), wounds debuff with shield, Instead of useless dispel detaunt.

Blacksuperman
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#47 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:45 am

diegomess wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:05 pm I said i agree that knight needs some dmg to make it fun but then you need to lose utility or give something to chosen.
Oh boy, i had to accept long ago that such suggestions are naive...

-if you tell anybody that kotbs has the least tactic's in the game of all classes, you get laughed on.
I mean kotbs has his 4-6 party/WB tactics... actually we could remove all others :lol:
-THC on BO changed to 9pt ability, suggesting make ether dance 9pt ability as well, people will rofl like Neymar.
-list could go on, but the point is clear i guess
(List above just an example, no balance blame)

you can't expect that changes for 1 class take place on the other side for it's "mirror" :lol:
That would be rediculous.

reynor007
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#48 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:11 am

diegomess wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:05 pm
Battlefield wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:31 pm
diegomess wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:18 pm o damn and i was wrong, i thought knight left tree 13 point was arching swing like BG equivalent but you actually get that for free!!, you have another utility "staggering impact"??? damn knight is so good, it may be the best 2h tank in the game actually.

please buff chosen rending blade and change corruptive power for feed on the weary useless tactic
What??? Nothing to say but need to say something? :lol: Yesterday 2h Chosen
killed 2 times high rr SM under my guard, was some WH also but he ran away and
we could not to kill him! I'm playing Snb Kotbs and if i had 2H spec i would be dead too !
I have 80rr+ Chosen too btw, it's one of my first char here on Ror...
I can go to Destr back but Kotbs sucks now, this is very sad !
Funny 1 thing, Runefang tactic it was a feature of the Kotbs only but similar tactic was added to Chosen and only Chosen now using it constantly but Kotbs not, because not enough points to reach and good parry !
classic regentard chosen then, beefy stats chosen does well against other tanks, still in orvr or ranked knight will do more.

I said i agree that knight needs some dmg to make it fun but then you need to lose utility or give something to chosen.

Also funny they gave 2hchosens cripplin strikes to SM (pretty sure), the peculiar thing chosen had... now chosen is only know by his parry buff and spirit dmg, which has been nerfed already.
bro, I've been playing kotbs since the first day of the game, this is my favorite character, but what they did to him here..., I can't look at it, he's weaker than anyone else, everything that gave him at least some advantages was taken from him , while chosen received incredible buffs, he lost cripling strike, but got a lot more in return, kotbs got nothing
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#49 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:29 am

reynor007 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:11 am
Spoiler:
diegomess wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:05 pm
Battlefield wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:31 pm What??? Nothing to say but need to say something? :lol: Yesterday 2h Chosen
killed 2 times high rr SM under my guard, was some WH also but he ran away and
we could not to kill him! I'm playing Snb Kotbs and if i had 2H spec i would be dead too !
I have 80rr+ Chosen too btw, it's one of my first char here on Ror...
I can go to Destr back but Kotbs sucks now, this is very sad !
Funny 1 thing, Runefang tactic it was a feature of the Kotbs only but similar tactic was added to Chosen and only Chosen now using it constantly but Kotbs not, because not enough points to reach and good parry !
classic regentard chosen then, beefy stats chosen does well against other tanks, still in orvr or ranked knight will do more.

I said i agree that knight needs some dmg to make it fun but then you need to lose utility or give something to chosen.

Also funny they gave 2hchosens cripplin strikes to SM (pretty sure), the peculiar thing chosen had... now chosen is only know by his parry buff and spirit dmg, which has been nerfed already.
bro, I've been playing kotbs since the first day of the game, this is my favorite character, but what they did to him here..., I can't look at it, he's weaker than anyone else, everything that gave him at least some advantages was taken from him , while chosen received incredible buffs, he lost cripling strike, but got a lot more in return, kotbs got nothing
+1

But as long as kotbs has Focused Mending people will say he's better than choosen.

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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#50 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:06 pm

Order tanks in General need help. BADLY!!!
All destro says is that KoTBS is best order tank. Hmm.. yes it is.... and it is busted. All you can do is spec deff/SnnB, and cc.

Meanwhile you have BG's soloing entire order 6 man grps, regenerating HP and punting healers into next zone so they can kill the squishies.
Chosen just kills everything, especially if regen spec.
All 3 destro tanks have better dps than mara and witch elf combined.

Meanwhile Order tanks could not hurt a fly.

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