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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:12 pm
by Kaitanaroyr
Carotte wrote:Loooool stop make stupid topic ! You r already so cheated attack trow the door pet bugged and you need your healdebuff at lvl 21 !? So give the Sigmar Hammer for the WP or an **** selfheal for the white lion balance like mara ! Damn just be patient for the next pool lvl that all . You dont ask that on live game so play like the live WAR .
Wl doesn't need a self heal like mara it has a tactic heal but is useless the burst on wl would make up for it if they class worked and wasn't derp ap hungry

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:35 pm
by Jayzboi
Marley wrote:I'd say first release up to 25. Then Release 25 -> 30 later.
25 could also be a good idea, instead of the level 21 heal debuff for SH.

If you change this healdebuff to rank 21, i think it will cause alot of problems. More people makes a Poll because now they also wants something on their char to be changed. So IMO it would be better to increase rank to 25. IMO

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:00 pm
by Bozzax
Tesq wrote:I think it's the same for me, i voted no cos i think atm there are no unbalance concern related to skills while indeed it's more a gear related matter , also with lag is not easy look to which class is better or if a realm have and edge over the other but i play very little atm so ....

I will be more pleased if dev atm would spent 100% of their time dedicated to war fix lag/ partys / hero-champ damage / hero-champ walk away from keep. (keep loot can wait)

I think before move to t3 these are top priority
Yep seems wrong to start tinkering with abilities here and there.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:03 pm
by Coryphaus
Some changes here and there in the long run if done wisely won't hurt the game in the long run, further more if this is indeed just a temp solution them I'm all for it if the next lvl cap raise is indeed only to 21 or so

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:20 pm
by Morf
Jayzboi wrote:
25 could also be a good idea, instead of the level 21 heal debuff for SH.

If you change this healdebuff to rank 21, i think it will cause alot of problems. More people makes a Poll because now they also wants something on their char to be changed. So IMO it would be better to increase rank to 25. IMO

25 brings cave-win, festering arrow and other skills into play, devs have already stated that they are using the old tier brackets anyways.
I agree making a change like this would give the "i want my class to be buffed" type of ppl a reason to whine and ask for stuff for there class but them ppl are never satisfied anyway.
I can see how Order have the upperhand right now , runefang, slice through, sw kd, wild gambit and with level 21 a spamable heal debuff, this brings even more imbalance. Yes lower tiers aint suppose to be completely balanced(and t4 for that matter) and good players v bad players etc etc but a change like suggested brings balance closer together and judging by how many sw players there are(i wonder why that is) you can pretty much guarantee as a destro player you are going to be heal debuff atleast 50% of the time.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:25 pm
by Bozzax
There is not ONE ability that magically will balance T2 not even a SH heal debuff

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:03 pm
by Kaporan
Hmmm...I'd say forget the SH and do something for engi instead ,like : increasing the Fly distance of Gyros like 5 times higher or more (engi only ,they invented the darn things ,is only logical) and remove the fall damage ,or put a tactic /ablity Parachuting (I don't know why Mytic haven't thought of that dwarfs are inventive ) and put to Gyro some bombs in later levels

On serious matters ,all are whining about everything ,now I like the game as it is and I play it ,I cheer every fix the DEVS (may Gods prolong their lives and fill them with blessings ) are making ,but I'd say let the game become beta and then start working on things that Mythic didn't

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:32 pm
by katroulitsa
You have my yes simply cuz Telen is against it <3

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:42 pm
by Telen
katroulitsa wrote:You have my yes simply cuz Telen is against it <3
Sorry I got so many kills on your sorc just let it go

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:50 pm
by Luth
I edited the main post, for the people that don't know that the SW would get the spammable healdebuff on level 21.

I don't think T2 will be magically balanced through this (maybe only) temp change, but i already stated my reasons for this suggestion/poll.

On the level 25 suggestions:

I'm pretty sure that additional tactics require a lot more coding effort + testing, than the "level 21" abilities. Additionally some of the level 21 abilities work already.

So level 21 = maybe in the near future, but level 25 (probably) = far on the horizon.
It's up to the devs to decide in the end.



Carotte wrote:Loooool stop make stupid topic ! You r already so cheated attack trow the door pet bugged and you need your healdebuff at lvl 21 !? So give the Sigmar Hammer for the WP or an **** selfheal for the white lion balance like mara ! Damn just be patient for the next pool lvl that all . You dont ask that on live game so play like the live WAR .
Dear Mr. Carotte,

I already stated clearly that i only play order classes and don't gain any benefit from this change...
So: Not sure if trollin' or just stupid.
Maybe on X-mas i'm gonna gift you a coupon "learn2read4beginners".

Until then,

yours sincerly

Luth