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Re: pls explain me that

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:34 pm
by Penril
Also correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't ID uncleansable?

Re: pls explain me that

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:48 pm
by Luth
It was on the mythic server, but is is fixed here.

Re: pls explain me that

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:15 pm
by Toldavf
Des already have a massive edge in the cleansing war all bar one (the rune priests) incoming heal debuffs are aoe cleanable by doks, that same class that provides a dot proc to cover all of destros lovely ailment based IHD's.

Quick pole how many des used to see their heal debuff sit on target for the full 10 seconds?

I predict that with the cleansability of ID we will see a massive drop off in orders ability to win on the melee train purely because slayers cant manage anywhere near the damage they used to.

As a final point if ID was so easy to fix maybe mythic didn't do it for a reason?

Re: pls explain me that

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:24 pm
by Telen
Well ID was fixed in 1.5.0. Before that It was counted as a damage aura so couldnt be cleansed and each tick counted as an aoe and procced off all damage so endlessly. It was still bugged though and uncleansable when it was meant to be (mythic style fix as in they pussied out of fixing due to fear of backlash like so many other balance problems). Still at 5s cd you better bring 2 doks just to cleanse slayers.

Re: pls explain me that

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:32 pm
by Toldavf
I guess but if you bring 2 doks 1 IB will nerf those heals badly. I'll wait to see how it plays out i know i can trust the devs to change it back if it ends up completely gimping slayer :P

Re: pls explain me that

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:38 pm
by Penril
Toldavf wrote:Des already have a massive edge in the cleansing war all bar one (the rune priests) incoming heal debuffs are aoe cleanable by doks, that same class that provides a dot proc to cover all of destros lovely ailment based IHD's.

Quick pole how many des used to see their heal debuff sit on target for the full 10 seconds?

I predict that with the cleansability of ID we will see a massive drop off in orders ability to win on the melee train purely because slayers cant manage anywhere near the damage they used to.

As a final point if ID was so easy to fix maybe mythic didn't do it for a reason?
Are you serious? I need confirmation on your seriousness before i answer.

Re: pls explain me that

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:40 pm
by Penril
Telen wrote:Well ID was fixed in 1.5.0. Before that It was counted as a damage aura so couldnt be cleansed and each tick counted as an aoe and procced off all damage so endlessly. It was still bugged though and uncleansable when it was meant to be (mythic style fix as in they pussied out of fixing due to fear of backlash like so many other balance problems). Still at 5s cd you better bring 2 doks just to cleanse slayers.
Do you remember Washette's addon? The one that auto-clicked ID on you so it got removed?

I remember the tears and hate that brought hahaha. Funny thing is, no one got banned for using that addon (none that i know of anyway).

Re: pls explain me that

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:02 pm
by Toldavf
I remember that well :/

Re: pls explain me that

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:08 pm
by woot
Toldavf wrote:I guess but if you bring 2 doks 1 IB will nerf those heals badly. I'll wait to see how it plays out i know i can trust the devs to change it back if it ends up completely gimping slayer :P
WP's get their orvr influence purple book and DoK's do not get their orvr influence purple chalice. How many healing DoK's you think you gonna find when they realize that?

Re: pls explain me that

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:17 pm
by Toldavf
woot wrote:
Toldavf wrote:I guess but if you bring 2 doks 1 IB will nerf those heals badly. I'll wait to see how it plays out i know i can trust the devs to change it back if it ends up completely gimping slayer :P
WP's get their orvr influence purple book and DoK's do not get their orvr influence purple chalice. How many healing DoK's you think you gonna find when they realize that?
In t4 im sure they will find something