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				Re: Patch Notes 20/05/2021
				Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:55 pm
				by Sundowner
				Neverever wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 3:51 pm
Thanks for nerfing SH to ground without any compensations. Best part is WL got even a further buff. Can't really see the logic or balance between all these. I don't really think that changes will bring any balance at all.  So I can't understand the reason why you have reduced SH range to 65ft, nerfed run away tactic, and kaboom, and moved melee KD to mastery tree in the first place ? Only playable tree was  QS for RSH and you nerfed it to ground as well now without any compensation. I think we are experiencing the result of chosing some ordinary players with clear order bias as RC just because they are streamers.
 
because, maybe maybe, sh was overperforming?
and yeah how can now destro stop wl when both sides have similar morale pumps  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Patch Notes 20/05/2021
				Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:55 pm
				by wargrimnir
				Neverever wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 3:51 pm
Thanks for nerfing SH to ground without any compensations. Best part is WL got even a further buff. Can't really see the logic or balance between all these. I don't really think that changes will bring any balance at all.  So I can't understand the reason why you have reduced SH range to 65ft, nerfed run away tactic, and kaboom, and moved melee KD to mastery tree in the first place ? Only playable tree was  QS for RSH and you nerfed it to ground as well now without any compensation. I think we are experiencing the result of chosing some ordinary players with clear order bias as RC just because they are streamers.
 
I don't think any of the RC's are streamers to any significant degree. One was, but he dropped out very early on.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Patch Notes 20/05/2021
				Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:57 pm
				by Atomikthrash
				Biggest joke ever. thank you for everything
			 
			
					
				Re: Patch Notes 20/05/2021
				Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:03 pm
				by Sofong
				waaagh was equivalent to WW, chop fasta is to counter shatter limbs..... removing waagh but keeping WW makes 0 sense......... very disappointing patch many of the nerfs are unnecessary.
			 
			
					
				Re: Patch Notes 20/05/2021
				Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:03 pm
				by agemennon675
				Can we also get SM Heaven’s Blade to work as the same as BO DaGreenest ? There is no reason to have that much difference between this two ability
			 
			
					
				Re: Patch Notes 20/05/2021
				Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:07 pm
				by Rydiak
				Sofong wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 4:03 pm
waaagh was equivalent to WW, chop fasta is to counter shatter limbs..... removing waagh but keeping WW makes 0 sense......... very disappointing patch many of the nerfs are unnecessary.
 
Waaagh was turned into a CDR by RoR. It did not exist as such during live.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Patch Notes 20/05/2021
				Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:07 pm
				by Ramlaen
				Sofong wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 4:03 pm
waaagh was equivalent to WW, chop fasta is to counter shatter limbs..... removing waagh but keeping WW makes 0 sense......... very disappointing patch many of the nerfs are unnecessary.
 
Shatter Limbs is mirrored by Bad Gas.
Order and Destro both had 1 aoe CD increaser and single target CD increaser but only Destro had 2 group CD reducers.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Patch Notes 20/05/2021
				Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:08 pm
				by detrap
				Sofong wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 4:03 pm
waaagh was equivalent to WW, chop fasta is to counter shatter limbs..... removing waagh but keeping WW makes 0 sense......... very disappointing patch many of the nerfs are unnecessary.
 
I'm sure shatter limbs was the mirror to the SH version of shatter limbs?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Patch Notes 20/05/2021
				Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:08 pm
				by Andack
				What a nerf for msh, it's just... I have no word... 25 speed for a skill who can be interrupt ? 150 to 100 for m1, it's just ridiculous for a pet who because of the last patch is always dead or too far from the fight, a pity aoe for bounce lol. Thanks. Yeah, the little cry of order win again as always, chat a one sided patch...
			 
			
					
				Re: Patch Notes 20/05/2021
				Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:08 pm
				by SpacestarKid
				White Lion: You will now gain 50 morale every 5 seconds while your White Lion is active.
Is it about state of combat?