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Re: make rr70 players their own bracket
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:22 pm
by TreefAM
Drys wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:34 pm
If gear doesn't matter, why not make Anni or Conq stats the highest stats in the game and let higher tiers of gear only apply appearances or be variations on stat combos, but no more powerful than Anni or Conq? Shouldn't matter to anyone right b/c high-end gear doesn't give you an advantage anyway...
Wouldn't make a difference, pugs would keep on getting farmed in the same manner.
Everyone has the gear now anyhow, it's been a year.
Re: make rr70 players their own bracket
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:29 pm
by Drys
TreefAM wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:22 pm
Wouldn't make a difference, pugs would keep on getting farmed in the same manner.
Everyone has the gear now anyhow, it's been a year.
Sure, PUGs might be farmed, but then it wouldn't be because of a gear disparity - it would be a skill level and people can discuss that. However, the OP's post suggests that you're incorrect and not
everyone has the gear now. If it wouldn't make a difference, then I expect you'd have no problem making gear more of a horizontal progression with no increase in overall stats (just different combos) and improved visuals...
Re: make rr70 players their own bracket
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:04 pm
by emiliorv
Drys wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:29 pm
TreefAM wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:22 pm
Wouldn't make a difference, pugs would keep on getting farmed in the same manner.
Everyone has the gear now anyhow, it's been a year.
Sure, PUGs might be farmed, but then it wouldn't be because of a gear disparity - it would be a skill level and people can discuss that. However, the OP's post suggests that you're incorrect and not
everyone has the gear now. If it wouldn't make a difference, then I expect you'd have no problem making gear more of a horizontal progression with no increase in overall stats (just different combos) and improved visuals...
after remove the gear component pugs will claim to separate pugs from "premades" (using "" because not every 6m grp is a real premade...only to pugs eyes who see premades everywhere...), this is happening right now (still cant belive the change in city matchmaking to cater soloplayers).
looks like OP is having a hard time playing in a grp setup in a MMO...
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=42809
Re: make rr70 players their own bracket
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:12 pm
by Drys
emiliorv wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:04 pm
after remove the gear component pugs will claim to separate pugs from "premades" (using "" because not every 6m grp is a real premade...only to pugs eyes who see premades everywhere...), this is happening right now (still cant belive the change in city matchmaking to cater soloplayers).
looks like OP is having a hard time playing in a grp setup in a MMO...
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=42809
There's already a .pug scenario, so I think that argument would be easy to refute. I still think the OP makes a good point. People responding that gear doesn't matter but arguing to keep sov-level stats are being disingenuous...
Re: make rr70 players their own bracket
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:30 pm
by emiliorv
Drys wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:12 pm
emiliorv wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:04 pm
after remove the gear component pugs will claim to separate pugs from "premades" (using "" because not every 6m grp is a real premade...only to pugs eyes who see premades everywhere...), this is happening right now (still cant belive the change in city matchmaking to cater soloplayers).
looks like OP is having a hard time playing in a grp setup in a MMO...
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=42809
There's already a .pug scenario, so I think that argument would be easy to refute. I still think the OP makes a good point. People responding that gear doesn't matter but arguing to keep sov-level stats are being disingenuous...
easy to refute?? review forum topics (lets say last 2 months) and tell me how many are claiming to pugs avoid premades...close to every weekend there is a topic like this...
Gear matter but gameplay > gear...the problem (as always) is for ppl who play alone where gameplay doesnt exist, then you blame gear gap for lose....
Re: make rr70 players their own bracket
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:31 pm
by dalen
There literally is already a scenario that is exclusively players below RR70, and it is also guaranteed to have balanced setups: Ranked Solo for players below RR70.
So if what you want is balanced setups and not face sov geared premades, the option is already there for you.