Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

[Ototo]

DoKs and WPs never fall back.... NEVER..... They are overwhelming ever, cause they are pure cheese when it comes to the basic trouble of any healer: get caught in knife-range by an enemy tank or fighteable-DPS (yeah, i know, WE and WH, but nearly nobody will pass the pain of t2 with them).

Also, passing t3 with an AM is, trust me, painfully, specially cause they are weak by that time and the huge open battlefields in that tier make most of the healers give up. RP and Sh can run pass using their tiny size, but AM and Zeal are like "ok, i give up, that WE/WH its spotting me as soon as i leave the camp".

SW and BO i completely agree. Since t2 they are close to pathetic due to a mix of bad tactics and reduced speed of usefull things, that need to be grinded up to t4, making both them the worst, by far, classes of the in-mid tiers, and a not-so-good t4 to actually worth the pain.

If i were to choose 3 "omg, someone leveled one to level 40" classes would be:
*Magus/Engi: First cause of pure bad comparation with Sorc when it comes to who use the Intel in Destr side, being the counter for it the same stat, Willp. Second cause half its gear has strght, lacking those valuable stats points that give squig the vast edge in RDPS.
*BW: Now seriously, try to fight a NPC of ur level or one above with gear ¡¡3!!, not 5, not 10, just 3 levels below and u are most likely dead, most weak class of the game, far more than Sorc passing t1 due to lack of defensive stops and skills. Like 90% f the BW of the live server were abandoned characters in t3.
*WH/WE: Nobody played them once they hited the stealth and they notice that the skill wasnt that great. Required a lot of patience and fast think, also luck, to play it decently, cause they are really powerfull, but really weak also. i was, literally, the only lvl40 WH in my 200+ characters guild.

[Vaul]

Which server/planet was this?

[Coryphaus]

I.... what.....there's soo many things wrong with.....I don't even....


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[Ototo]

Ok, lets change the question to: which classes did u have in live in t4?? PvE or PvP?? (only PvP here) Of ur lvl40s which one of them reached rr80+?? (Cause given enough time i also reached 40 even with my boring KoBS) And full Sov??

[Soulcheg]

BG 40/98, WP 40/90, BW 40/60, Sorc 40/70, SH 40/60 and many 40/30, 40/40 etc.

You are wrong on so many points about classes in t4... it's just COMPLETELY wrong.

[Twyxx]

Disagree with the long post.

[Arslan]

Soooo wrong Ototo. Really wrong. BW's are OP. WE, WH are very cool. SM is comme-ci comme-ca but useful and can deal A LOT of damage, BOrc. I have seen 2h BOrcs wreking WP's 1v1. Magus engi. See them played well and change the course of a battle. Magus like the mass pull as well.

[Ototo]

I played pre-RR100, and I was the only RR80 WH of my guild, man, and one of the few full Sov that i knew of. As far as i know, there were just 7-8 in the server that played WH often enough.

I never saw as many BW as Sorcs in the PvP areas. Nowhr close. Same goes for Magi/Engi. U cnat deny the disadvantage of the gear for engis, and Magi whr also a rare sight cause Sorcs were easy-mode RDPSs, while Magi required to enter the 65ft range to be usefull and dmging.

I didnt speak bad of SM, was my most played character actually, but of SW, that again were a rare sight in t4.

Maybe i played a diff game, but in the one i did, t4 as crowed by KoBS, WP, AM and RP (both off and def ones, Order) and BG, Chosens, Shammies, DoKs and Sorcs (Destro).

The other classes were extremely rare, and BY FAR the crowd of the population were tanks and healers, or some sorta combo like the WP/DoKs.

When it came to PvE there were a lot more variation, but in the t4 RvR lakes, like 85% of the population were reduced to the 9 listed up.

[Ototo]

If someone want to make a more detailed critic and actually open a discussion instead of throw away supposed "WAR dogmas", u can make it the critic, its ok, but just saying that is wrong when its so detailed seems to me that u are purely speaking of RoR and its current t1 only. I wasnt and i stated that in the first moment.

U can state ur points, but my exp is listed there in mines, and its exactly that.

[Luth]

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=bw; ... ;;0:0:0:0: + "cauterize" = better than sorc (solo and in groups).