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Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:17 pm
by BeautfulToad
Xergon wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:09 pm If there are 2 other healers in your group then who are you? U neither DPS neither Healer neither Tank...
I really dont understand what is difficult about what I am saying. Stats-wise, you can be a healer with a book and also have a shield. It tells you nothing of class.

The tankiest healer in game has to be a WP with a shield, since no other healer can get +3% block from base gear (and also get that up to something like 20%-30% block).

If the devs dont count shield wielding WPs as healers, they are wrong and it should be changed. WP class is determined by abilities not equipment.

Any nerf to WP + shield tankiness (which I think will happen when a really good player min-maxes a WP) should buff Grace out of group healing.

If you gave a shield to any other healer class, they'd use it. No question.

Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:31 pm
by Sofong
yeah yeah yeah nerf dok nerf mara buff wp buff slayer buff wl hahaha

Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:38 pm
by Ototo
Sofong wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:31 pm yeah yeah yeah nerf dok nerf mara buff wp buff slayer buff wl hahaha
Read the title of the thread. Don't even read more than two comments. Tries to troll it. Fails miserably.

Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:38 pm
by kam19080
NERF DPS DOK is not the best way.

buff WP in Grace may be a good way.

IF both healing are simply fair.

And DPS DOK is better than DPS WP,

Then, why not buff grace wp?

Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:49 pm
by Gunlinger
The source of the power that makes the DoK the better DPS/Heal Hybrid are his dual wielded
one hand weapons. The Dok is able to get faster aa hits. The WP does have higher hitting aa.
But he hits slower, so the DoK gets more small hits in short clashes, where the WP would need longer contact to his target.
Maybe the solution to even the odds would be to give the WP the abillity to dual wield one handed hammers and in exchange the abillity to wear a 2 hand sword to the DoK.

Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:56 pm
by Secrets
Guilty Soul for DPS WP provides more damage than DPS DoK.

The only thing DoK gets is a constant heal debuff on their target which can be used to secure kills easier.

IMO, if you have an incoming heal debuff, DPS WP is substantially better.

I'm really wanting to gear a DPS WP to prove this point.

Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:58 pm
by wargrimnir
BeautfulToad wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:17 pm
Xergon wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:09 pm If there are 2 other healers in your group then who are you? U neither DPS neither Healer neither Tank...
If the devs dont count shield wielding WPs as healers, they are wrong and it should be changed. WP class is determined by abilities not equipment.
I'm pretty sure Grace WP is still counted as a healer. It's the DPS part that's discriminated against.

Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:01 pm
by Xergon
Secrets wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:56 pm Guilty Soul for DPS WP provides more damage than DPS DoK.

The only thing DoK gets is a constant heal debuff on their target which can be used to secure kills easier.

IMO, if you have an incoming heal debuff, DPS WP is substantially better.

I'm really wanting to gear a DPS WP to prove this point.
Even with gear, how u plan to exactly prove that ? I wonder because i have both fully stacked with Bloodlord and i know that constant DPS on DoK is simply higher per time/hits than WP, can record to prove that just dont think it will convince anyone still :D

Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:59 pm
by kam19080
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Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:03 pm
by kam19080
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