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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:29 am
by Rackiera
Shadowlands Now, 3 Bo held Lord cannot be killed, Destro giving up
Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:31 am
by Hargrim
Rackiera wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:29 am
Shadowlands Now, 3 Bo held Lord cannot be killed, Destro giving up
Shot us a vid someone.
Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:38 am
by AxelF
Can I suggest we start with implementing a vastly underperforming version of the desired system - say 0.25% healing per BO and then gradually adjust upwards until we hit the sweet spot?
Everyone appreciates this stuff isn't easy otherwise we'd be able to do it, but the current implementations over the last couple of weeks have just resulted in uncappable zones and people giving up and logging off out of frustration.
We all want a good RvR system and obviously these things need testing, but doing it this way round is killing oRvR at weekends when most people have a decent chunk of time to play. Surely it would be better to get the mechanic in place but undertuned and check there's no unintended side effects before adjusting upwards?
Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:47 am
by Hargrim
AxelF wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:38 am
Can I suggest we start with implementing a vastly underperforming version of the desired system - say 0.25% healing per BO and then gradually adjust upwards until we hit the sweet spot?
Everyone appreciates this stuff isn't easy otherwise we'd be able to do it, but the current implementations over the last couple of weeks have just resulted in uncappable zones and people giving up and logging off out of frustration.
We all want a good RvR system and obviously these things need testing, but doing it this way round is killing oRvR at weekends when most people have a decent chunk of time to play. Surely it would be better to get the mechanic in place but undertuned and check there's no unintended side effects before adjusting upwards?
Go shot a vid of current implementation.
Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:10 pm
by AxelF
I'm not having a go, but it's exactly responses like that that lead to the comments in Shadowlands this morning when it became apparent that the Lord was unkillable even with destro holding 4 BOs in response to people telling other people to post feedback on the forums of 'why what's the point?' 'all you get is shitty sarcastic responses' 'and get accused of whining'....
The basic assumption seems to be that everyone playing the game is lying - just log in to and play your game and you can see exactly how it's performing. I won't waste my time trying to help further.
Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:44 pm
by Hargrim
AxelF wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:10 pm
I'm not having a go, but it's exactly responses like that that lead to the comments in Shadowlands this morning when it became apparent that the Lord was unkillable even with destro holding 4 BOs in response to people telling other people to post feedback on the forums of 'why what's the point?' 'all you get is shitty sarcastic responses' 'and get accused of whining'....
The basic assumption seems to be that everyone playing the game is lying - just log in to and play your game and you can see exactly how it's performing. I won't waste my time trying to help further.
So don't. Bye. Maybe someone else will.
Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:50 pm
by anarchypark
AxelF wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:10 pm
I'm not having a go, but it's exactly responses like that that lead to the comments in Shadowlands this morning when it became apparent that the Lord was unkillable even with destro holding 4 BOs in response to people telling other people to post feedback on the forums of 'why what's the point?' 'all you get is shitty sarcastic responses' 'and get accused of whining'....
The basic assumption seems to be that everyone playing the game is lying - just log in to and play your game and you can see exactly how it's performing. I won't waste my time trying to help further.
He might be at work. or busy with other stuff.
can you login whenever someone demands in 24hour?
your suggestion looks reasonable.
why waste opportunity to achieve your goal with unreasonable thinking?
RvR stress i guess
It's strange most ppl don't like endless war in war game.
anyway, time to learn recording tool for me.
Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:22 pm
by AxelF
anarchypark wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:50 pm
AxelF wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:10 pm
I'm not having a go, but it's exactly responses like that that lead to the comments in Shadowlands this morning when it became apparent that the Lord was unkillable even with destro holding 4 BOs in response to people telling other people to post feedback on the forums of 'why what's the point?' 'all you get is shitty sarcastic responses' 'and get accused of whining'....
The basic assumption seems to be that everyone playing the game is lying - just log in to and play your game and you can see exactly how it's performing. I won't waste my time trying to help further.
He might be at work. or busy with other stuff.
can you login whenever someone demands in 24hour?
your suggestion looks reasonable.
why waste opportunity to achieve your goal with unreasonable thinking?
RvR stress i guess
It's strange most ppl don't like endless war in war game.
anyway, time to learn recording tool for me.
Its the fact that every reasonable suggestion is ignored and replied to with accusations of lying or whining. As you said it was a reasonable suggestion - basic project management, but hey.
Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:02 pm
by Hargrim
AxelF wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:22 pm
Its the fact that every reasonable suggestion is ignored and replied to with accusations of lying or whining. As you said it was a reasonable suggestion - basic project management, but hey.
Who accused you of something? I personaly checked how this worked yesterday and all I've seen was players playing old game and excepting results without chsnging anything. Or I was late to the party. Also, I already toned down stuff from my own tests and predictions, so your reasonable suggestions are not worth a thing if some competent players won't test how it works. It's rather obvious and if you had any good will you would see it. But hey, it's the bad devs again.
Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:35 pm
by AxelF
So I make a post saying 'I appreciate this is difficult and we understand what you're trying do, but something is obviously going wrong atm. Have you considered maybe this sensible alternative approach that would avoid breaking the core game mechanic?'
Then the response is just 'prove its not working'. If every suggestion and piece of feedback is met with hostility then do you really expect people to provide feedback?