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Re: Patch Notes 16/12/2017

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:56 pm
by qwerty113
Nice changes for destr..chosen+bg +20crit buff.. And what for Order ? another nerf..

Re: Patch Notes 16/12/2017

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:10 pm
by Specialpatrol
What’s the reasoning to the change to Crippling Strikes?

It went from being a defensive tool (less dmg from target - and didn’t it used to be a 25% dmg reduction, by the way?) to a very offensive one.

At a glance, it looks like a quite huge buff to Chosen/Destruction: a somewhat mirroring of KotBS EA tactic, but without the Great Weapon/aura restriction - i.e. can be used with SnB and any auras (correct me, if I’m wrong).

With a 2-hander, Chosens can now also have a default +25% crit chance on their target - without even a point spent i renown crit.

Add in the access to a default moralepump tactic (which the knight or any of the other order tanks doesn’t have), it seems a bit unbalanced.

Re: Patch Notes 16/12/2017

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:19 pm
by Osred
So destro now have more crit than Order. Something Order's crit rate was heavily nerfed for. Destro also get to keep their free morale pumps. What are Order getting?

Re: Patch Notes 16/12/2017

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:20 pm
by oaliaen
The war is changing again... Welcome back chosens!

Re: Patch Notes 16/12/2017

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:21 pm
by Fallenkezef
oaliaen wrote:The war is changing again... Welcome back chosens!
They never left

Re: Patch Notes 16/12/2017

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:22 pm
by qwerty113
Osred wrote:So destro now have more crit than Order. Something Order's crit rate was heavily nerfed for. Destro also get to keep their free morale pumps. What are Order getting?
Order got more nerf, classic.. To much whining from destro i guess

Re: Patch Notes 16/12/2017

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:26 pm
by Foltestik
order crying .... nice ... finely :D

Re: Patch Notes 16/12/2017

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:30 pm
by lefze
Specialpatrol wrote:What’s the reasoning to the change to Crippling Strikes?

It went from being a defensive tool (less dmg from target - and didn’t it used to be a 25% dmg reduction, by the way?) to a very offensive one.

At a glance, it looks like a quite huge buff to Chosen/Destruction: a somewhat mirroring of KotBS EA tactic, but without the Great Weapon/aura restriction - i.e. can be used with SnB and any auras (correct me, if I’m wrong).

With a 2-hander, Chosens can now also have a default +25% crit chance on their target - without even a point spent i renown crit.

Add in the access to a default moralepump tactic (which the knight or any of the other order tanks doesn’t have), it seems a bit unbalanced.
Requires not only a hit, but a crit, is non-refreshing, and requires a pretty gimpy build to work well for wabrands at least afaik.

And moralepumps were nerfed.

Re: Patch Notes 16/12/2017

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:35 pm
by qwerty113
lefze wrote:
Specialpatrol wrote:What’s the reasoning to the change to Crippling Strikes?

It went from being a defensive tool (less dmg from target - and didn’t it used to be a 25% dmg reduction, by the way?) to a very offensive one.

At a glance, it looks like a quite huge buff to Chosen/Destruction: a somewhat mirroring of KotBS EA tactic, but without the Great Weapon/aura restriction - i.e. can be used with SnB and any auras (correct me, if I’m wrong).

With a 2-hander, Chosens can now also have a default +25% crit chance on their target - without even a point spent i renown crit.

Add in the access to a default moralepump tactic (which the knight or any of the other order tanks doesn’t have), it seems a bit unbalanced.
Requires not only a hit, but a crit, is non-refreshing, and requires a pretty gimpy build to work well for wabrands at least afaik.

And moralepumps were nerfed.
we talking about pramades more than warband and yes rb almost always crit

Re: Patch Notes 16/12/2017

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:40 pm
by Njaguar
qwerty113 wrote:Nice changes for destr..chosen+bg +20crit buff.. And what for Order ? another nerf..
Are you kidding me? I am playing a Kotbs mainly, and i am happy destro got it.
Order got 2x crit buffs on kotbs, 10 % from IB, 7 % from SW.
Order still got group crit buff, destro dont.