Foomy44 wrote:Skullthumper lasts 10 seconds right? So you can apply it first, then next Best Plan use WAAAGH and get more crits + bigger procs out of your group thx to AA buff and corp debuff, or am I missing something?
You can't have 100% uptime with Red Frenzy. There's some downtime between the middle GCDs after applying Skull Thumper and going for the refresh.(should be something like 1s+ downtime). You can have a 100% uptime with Skull Thumper on targets that have 0 avoidance, do not fight back and stand still. To have the exact numbers you'd need to do the math, but i'll screw it up somewhere if i do it at 5am, and tbh, i'm a bit too lazy to do it.
Problem is that people do not stand still in the middle of a fight, they do fight back and you're not going to only use your rotation to build and spend plans over and over again. Movement, Punts, Slows, KDs, Disarms, Parries/Dodges/Blocks, other Best Plan spenders, Skills outside Builders, Swapping Targets, Guard Switching, Ap drains and more. All those things need to be kept in mind too, and if you do your role as a tank correctly, (and your enemy isn't sleeping) You'll never have high uptime on Red Frenzy. You will be forced to choose one or the other, and Skull Thumper appears to be the best choice (to me). Whether you start with Waaaaagh! or Skull Thumper doesn't matter, you won't have enough time to keep both of them up.
Maybe using Bring 'Em On to try to keep close to 100% uptime on both of them will be viable. Just hit 35 right now so just got it, works great in PvE at least.
Re: 22/9/2017 Patch Notes
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:29 am
by Loreithian
Wow, that is one great set of changes as I read that this morning. As always fantastic work to all involved and thank you for continuing to do so.
Re: 22/9/2017 Patch Notes
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:55 am
by anarchypark
ugh more tests?
you guys work too much!
have some rest, so we can test slowly j/k
ty!
Re: 22/9/2017 Patch Notes
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:22 am
by freshour
Torquemadra wrote:
Niakahn wrote:Were the birds by Ghalnaros removed?
You seriously think their intended purpose was for you to farm them bolstered to 48? Because if that wasnt their purpose (and it wasnt) you were exploiting test mechanics for an unintended purpose.
I think the answer you were looking for was, Yes lol
Re: 22/9/2017 Patch Notes
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:49 am
by TheSockPuppet
A question regarding the change on Tzeentch's Firestorm, while i have never tried the ability myself, i heard that the main reason that it sucked hard was because of it's inability to apply the debuff to new targets that came within the area of the affected player, was that fixed?
Re: 22/9/2017 Patch Notes
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:54 am
by Atropik
Spoiler:
Penril wrote:It only affects 3 targets and you need to be in melee range. Big Swing affects up to 9? and doesn't require a target.
For 5 seconds. If Big Swing affects 9 targets in 30 ft range, you must be already dead, or they are. To be honest, when things come to "more then 6 enemies in a 30ft range fights", there is no need in snares left. Target requirements have no sense there. And we have to remember, when comparing these things, - the one is on Kotbs, he is afk-proc-machine, he has nothing to worry about outside guard switching and cc.ing enemies, the same time BO is a different story. The fact, slice through is far more then enough to keep some (3-6) needed amount of enemy players snared with 100% uptime.
A short question to Devs, if possible please. Do Phosphorous Shells get some fix to its bugged animation? i just tired of "burning" all the way ride.
Torquemadra wrote:Examples of the Repairable Drops
Not sure about BiS.
Not discussing KotBS in this patch.
Re: 22/9/2017 Patch Notes
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:15 am
by freshour
So no one thinks the SM bubble that every SM runs and also the fact that every single premade on order runs 2h knight and sm - that it might be a problem? Okaaaay then
Re: 22/9/2017 Patch Notes
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:20 am
by GodlessCrom
Every destro premade runs BO and chosen.
Re: 22/9/2017 Patch Notes
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:21 am
by freshour
GodlessCrom wrote:Every destro premade runs BO and chosen.
j/k