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Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:48 pm
by Jaycub
ctrl+f "proc" no results

:thinking:

Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:12 am
by Grock
Think parry bonus from DW should be removed, the only things it brings to the game is unnecessary balance problems
Same with any "strikethrough" or whatever

It will only make thigs unnecessarily more complex.

And 2h Chosen and IB would look totally badass.
Though with BG/BO there will be silhouette/animation conflict with DoK/Choppa

Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:53 am
by Collateral
I will just chim in and say: yes gimme DW on BO pleaseeeeee, even if it's just appearance!!!! (also 2h SM is op)

Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:51 am
by Haojin
GodlessCrom wrote:Full renown parry is only 18% chance to parry IIRC. BO doesnt have a parry self buff like SM, so they kinda doomed to have low avoidance in 2h does.

10% parry strikethrough is only for 2h wp, yeah.
Full BL = %5 parry
Parry Jewels = %9 parry
Proc 2hand = %10 parry
Renown = %18 parry
GaBC Tactic = %5 parry
LSM Tactic = % 10 parry

you can hit %57 parry easly but yes with some gear and spec.

Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:08 am
by Collateral
Haojin wrote:
GodlessCrom wrote:Full renown parry is only 18% chance to parry IIRC. BO doesnt have a parry self buff like SM, so they kinda doomed to have low avoidance in 2h does.

10% parry strikethrough is only for 2h wp, yeah.
Full BL = %5 parry
Parry Jewels = %9 parry
Proc 2hand = %10 parry
Renown = %18 parry
GaBC Tactic = %5 parry
LSM Tactic = % 10 parry

you can hit %57 parry easly but yes with some gear and spec.
Yes but this is not 100% uptime 57% parry. There is also rng involved which doesn't help much. And since you're rotating your stances you will almost never be on 57% cuz you nedd best plan for that, unless you want to stop dealing damage for a couple seconds :P Your parry will be dancing around like a gobbo on mushrooms.

Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:18 am
by Haojin
Collateral wrote:
Haojin wrote:
GodlessCrom wrote:Full renown parry is only 18% chance to parry IIRC. BO doesnt have a parry self buff like SM, so they kinda doomed to have low avoidance in 2h does.

10% parry strikethrough is only for 2h wp, yeah.
Full BL = %5 parry
Parry Jewels = %9 parry
Proc 2hand = %10 parry
Renown = %18 parry
GaBC Tactic = %5 parry
LSM Tactic = % 10 parry

you can hit %57 parry easly but yes with some gear and spec.
Yes but this is not 100% uptime 57% parry. There is also rng involved which doesn't help much. And since you're rotating your stances you will almost never be on 57% cuz you nedd best plan for that, unless you want to stop dealing damage for a couple seconds :P Your parry will be dancing around like a gobbo on mushrooms.
you only lose %5-%10 from "Less Stabbin Me" only in 1 GCD while repeating your rotation. 2h proc will be up almost %100 of time and when you using THC you'll be in Best Plan while channeling.

example:

-Armor Debuff
-ST Snare +5 Parry
-THC +10 Parry
-Change Plan +5 Parry
-Skull Thumper +10 parry
-Armor Debuff

Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:25 pm
by Collateral
It could be ok, but I still prefer my trusty shield :) And with LSM tactic you buff both stats, so I would say it's better to have 2 decent stats that both apply rather than only one, plus with CHM your block can get to 90% and you could still maintain 30% parry if I'm not wrong. Although imo CHM is still quite underpowered for a 13 point skill, but that's another topic.

Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:52 pm
by wildwindblows
thanks 4 all replies