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Re: Balance Discussion forums are now Open

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 12:27 pm
by Chuba
Most balance problems come from x-realming. Fix this and half of that balance work is done.

Re: Balance Discussion forums are now Open

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:36 am
by Arbich
Are renown abilities (cleansing wind, resolute defence, quick escape) valid counterarguments against balance proposals? I remember Azarael regrets the implementation of these abilities, but I don´t know the stance of the actual development team regarding this abilities.

Re: Balance Discussion forums are now Open

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:08 pm
by xanderous
Arbich wrote:Are renown abilities (cleansing wind, resolute defence, quick escape) valid counterarguments against balance proposals? I remember Azarael regrets the implementation of these abilities, but I don´t know the stance of the actual development team regarding this abilities.
I hate these abilities, there is no way to counter them, making them too advantageous for some classes to exploit but hey one side is benefiting a ton from them so i doubt they will ever be removed or fixed.

Re: Balance Discussion forums are now Open

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:24 pm
by Panzerkasper
xanderous wrote:
Arbich wrote:Are renown abilities (cleansing wind, resolute defence, quick escape) valid counterarguments against balance proposals? I remember Azarael regrets the implementation of these abilities, but I don´t know the stance of the actual development team regarding this abilities.
I hate these abilities, there is no way to counter them, making them too advantageous for some classes to exploit but hey one side is benefiting a ton from them so i doubt they will ever be removed or fixed.
one side? Let me guess wich one....

Re: Balance Discussion forums are now Open

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:44 pm
by xanderous
Panzerkasper wrote:
xanderous wrote:
Arbich wrote:Are renown abilities (cleansing wind, resolute defence, quick escape) valid counterarguments against balance proposals? I remember Azarael regrets the implementation of these abilities, but I don´t know the stance of the actual development team regarding this abilities.
I hate these abilities, there is no way to counter them, making them too advantageous for some classes to exploit but hey one side is benefiting a ton from them so i doubt they will ever be removed or fixed.
one side? Let me guess wich one....
Cleansing wind + quick escape + Run away tactic

Need i say more.....

Re: Balance Discussion forums are now Open

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:53 pm
by Foltestik
ranged knockdown

need i say more ...

:D

Re: Balance Discussion forums are now Open

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:54 pm
by xanderous
Foltestik wrote:ranged knockdown

need i say more ...

:D
What does that have to do with renown abilities?

Re: Balance Discussion forums are now Open

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:54 pm
by Panzerkasper
xanderous wrote:
Panzerkasper wrote:
xanderous wrote:
I hate these abilities, there is no way to counter them, making them too advantageous for some classes to exploit but hey one side is benefiting a ton from them so i doubt they will ever be removed or fixed.
one side? Let me guess wich one....
Cleansing wind + quick escape + Run away tactic

Need i say more.....
Punce, Fetch, Ensnare, Champions Challenge, StopDropandRoll, Eye Shot

Need I say more...

Re: Balance Discussion forums are now Open

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:59 pm
by Foltestik
xanderous wrote:
Foltestik wrote:ranged knockdown

need i say more ...

:D
What does that have to do with renown abilities?
a lot Resolut defence

Re: Balance Discussion forums are now Open

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:06 pm
by xanderous
Panzerkasper wrote:
xanderous wrote:
Panzerkasper wrote:
one side? Let me guess wich one....
Cleansing wind + quick escape + Run away tactic

Need i say more.....
Punce, Fetch, Ensnare, Champions Challenge, StopDropandRoll, Eye Shot

Need I say more...
You could try staying on topic, we were talking about renown abilities and how they are advantageous to one particular side, with no means to counter.....

We could list order vs destruction abilities till the cows come come but would serve little to no purpose accept to derail the current topic which is under discussion.