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blaqwar
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Re: Dps shammy brain storming

Post#41 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:22 am

sotora wrote:Poki

Just getting hang of things, still mainly in T3 gear and generally fooling around, but time is coming to make proper builds, rotations and fight tactics.
I've played against you in T3, well played I think you'll do great in T4 if you can get into a group. If you don't your regular play-time will end up being:
i run run away and Auto detaunt ;D so u nearly cant loose 1on1 ;D
Not very challenging...

If that's your fancy then that's allright, but for group play you should probably seek advice from someone else (no disrespect meant). Good luck!

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Daknallbomb
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Re: Dps shammy brain storming

Post#42 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:35 am

Oh mostly i play grp or duo. And If i play solo i search 2vs1 3vs1 But sometimes u get attacked so i have to kill rly dont like fights without a challange.
Dps shammy is not a class for 1vs1 challanges cause most 1vs1 are easy !
But ist rly a challange to Play em effektiv as dps in a grp or u search fights with higher numbers
iam still building my solo Videos there u can see how to get challanging fights at solo Roaming. The hardest Thing to Master for grp play for me is Timing youre gork points perfekt that u can burst on command. If u dont have youre gork points up and Main dps Call The target u Cant assist. Other Thing is time youre heals. When healers in grp are in trouble, stagger, wh, Hard focussed or something u have to Spam out youre gork points and heal grp with mork points. So its mostly a Timing challange with shammy
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peterthepan3
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Re: Dps shammy brain storming

Post#43 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:00 am

Your videos seem to be just against pugs and trying to top DMG by spamming the aoe skill. I would like to see you utilising the DPS Shaman against a good group :)
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Daknallbomb
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Re: Dps shammy brain storming

Post#44 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:03 am

Oh yes still work on my vids. The Video is Just a overwatch what to do with a dps shammy. Deadly that i miss a very nice 12 vs 10.... Forget to push Video Button.
tha aoe skill spam is cause of it makes the highest single target dmg :D and aoe Blessing burn . nothing to do with dmg pushing or somehting . Rotation is BB , DWIC , BOW (if u are near enough Big whaagh after DWIC) or YGN after DWIC against caster . on a target where BB crits for 1.5 DWIC crits about 1.8 and Impact on same time together with BB . SO you have to cast youre Aoe spells permanent cause they do the most single target dmg a bit paradox but well ist a dps shammy .
Shammy just leaks one Thing that makes him not that hard dps . After a fully Rotation of dmg u have a down time from about 3-5 seconds before u can make the next . if that could be changed dps shammy where viable like every other dps



*edit* i never will make some hard 6on6 Videos . my opinion is that pure 6on6 has nearly no room on RoR and is mostly Setup bashing or nonsense . Ilive in da lakes sometimes u meet a good grp and have a nice fight but there are always pugs+ other wbs more than 6 ppl and so on . the true good gaming for me is watching situations positioning ... knew when go when not dodge fights or not and so on .
In a high skilled 6on6 there is no room for a dmg shammy and will never be . at 12vs 12 mayb .
i loved fights against henrietta grp in da lakes where we get melted ;D but we do good and bring one down ;D
but things like caledor Woods are for me just omg ... as Long as there is no blance that u can fight all Setups with all Setups .
The Utility from dps shammy in better grp fights are simple . Youre grp is massiv harder to kill and whipe , aoe ele debuff , Long silence , two aoe Punts , better burst than sh , massiv more mobility than Magus , now after they nerfed procs nice dmg burst buff 4 grp with where we go again ( 400 dmg for both tanks both dps ) morale push in larger scale , aoe Blessing burn (more Impact than the most think,against a grp with dps shammy the other grp is perma out of buffs ) . kite abilitys . hmm think thats it
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peterthepan3
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Re: Dps shammy brain storming

Post#45 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:05 pm

DPS Shaman could have a place in 6v6 tbh - given recent buffs and changes to procs. Though there isn't really anyone to test this with/against.
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Daknallbomb
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Re: Dps shammy brain storming

Post#46 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:05 pm

hmmm but the down times for do dmg is to high
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Ugle
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Re: Dps shammy brain storming

Post#47 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:05 pm

As dps in 6vs6 you will be permafocused and your best role will be as decoy and kite, i.e you need to spec defensivly, wich hurts your dmg output more than it would on a pure dps class. In order to apply your burst you need to stand still. That means dead shammie. Hence your burst will be low.

Just my experience from live.

Changes made to the class in ROR might have changed it somewhat, but not that much. A SQ with perma heal debuff and well timed m2 on the target, and with their wider range of utility will probably be a better choice.
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peterthepan3
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Re: Dps shammy brain storming

Post#48 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:12 pm

It'd be difficult, but a Magus/Shaman/insert other dps combo could be fun: lots of synergy.

most of the time you'll be kiting/running, but when you are allowed to stand still the ele debuff, coupled with toughness debuff and burst rotation, would sync nicely with a magus. would be fun to try. and naturally SH will always be better, but its nice to break away from the mould and try out new comps.
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Re: Dps shammy brain storming

Post#49 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:37 pm

with the new mechanic u can faster burst casue a normal dmg combo takes 2.4 seconds stand sill thats okay . i feel nice syn with sorc or magus would be a nice try to prove it .
in 6on6 u dont have to skill defensiv for what ? any ranged dps in grp that need defensiv stats ?
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Ugle
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Re: Dps shammy brain storming

Post#50 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:47 pm

No decent premade will let you stand still to unload your burst. You'll either have to gear/spec somewhat defensivly or use defensive tactics (usually both). If you're gonna cover your defense with tactics, you'll need to use whats that behind ya and run away!, and you won't have room for hurts dont it or morks touch or whatever its called (blessing removal).
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