2H BO vs 2H chosen

[askeltonnerd]

Well, if 2h tanks are all I have ever played then, yes, I won't comment on things I do not know about. I do not claim to be the fountain of knowledge on the matters of Warhammer, BUT, I am giving (as I said previously), 'MY' personal experiences playing the archetype. I do not state anything as fact, BUT, I do state that regardless of whether or not I am chased off the forums with torches and pitch forks, I HAVE had success with them. When I say success, I mean in the only way that you can be successful in a PvP MMO and that is killing other players. What other measure of success is there when deciding whether or not a class is worth playing. (this is all from a RvR stand point by the way, no comment on end game pve etc).

As I previously stated, I never said they would do as much damage as a class built for that purpose, that is not the point. I was just letting the OP know that IF what he really wanted to do a 2h Tank then 'I' like many others have had success with them an will continue to do so.

Only thing I will share here mate, not that you are wrong, is that I played a Knight solely for a while when I first came here. I went full 2H and specced after a guildie to was "BIS" and played a 2H Knight as well who said they were good. I tried and tried to make them a viable class and deceived MYSELF for a long time thinking I was good.

It wasnt until I made a BW, that I realized truly how bad and ill-informed I was. I immediately specced my Knight SNB. Now, Chosen is a little different than a Knight, due to Crip Strikes, Supression, 15% crit tactic, and Rending Blade. Those things DONT mean you can play a DPS tank, but merely a 2H tank is viable.

Now I have experience playing almost every type of class, from MDPS, to various tanks, to RDPS, and even healers (in lower tiers) and I can say my perspective has changed ALOT from back when I played my Knight solely and even made an SM as I was told they were the "DPS Tank" to play....

Without perspective from the other classes/rolls you really wont have much lens in which to view if you are "successful" or not... In fact I dont even know how you would judge that quite frankly... There is no "tank" stat at the end of SCs or something... With DPS atleast you can look at your total DPS and KBs and Deaths and get SOME gauge. Healers get total healing.... Tanks get nothing. Frankly a tank high on the damage charts means next to zero for me because their slow non-burst damage doesnt kill anyone. There is a reason people kill MDPS or RDPS first... Because they have crazy burst damage AND are squishy.

So I guess the TLDR is: You need to play other classes to earn a larger perspective and how having a defensive built tank makes a HUGE difference for the group.

Thats just my 2 cents... I tried to be a DPS tank and wasted time on TWO different tanks to make this happen all to my own avail and now looking back realize how ignorant I was in my quest.....

What you are trying to argue here is like me saying to you "believe me mate, you mum is called Stacey". Who are you trying to convince, no matter how much you I try and convince you, it doesn't change the fact of the matter that she IS NOT called Stacey, haha. Your own unfortunate and disappointing experiences of playing a 2h tank is by no means any argument against my experiences. I am sorry it did not work out for you.

[askeltonnerd]

Nothing I said disagreed with how I think a SnB tank is better for a group or how a BW will kill something quicker. Your going off on a tangent. IF like you, I convinced myself and was trying to convince everyone else "2h tanks do more damage than BW's" then yes, I am deluded. But I haven't. I do not need to experiment in order to gain "lens" as to what classes do more damage than others or provide more utility, your arguing points I have not even made. I do not need to play a choppa to know "these do more damage than my tank", all I need to know is that I can kill them, which I do, often. I think the only class I cannot (quickly) kill in 1v1 or small scale pvp is a healer. But, please, by all means keep sending those MDPS my way for some free renown, hehe.

[Shadowgurke]

If you had at least tried an offensively specced SnB tank people would take you a lot more serious. Like everything is viable when you make kills with it? What you are saying is that 2h tank does more damage than SnB tanks and less damage than BW. Nobody is arguing about that. It just doesn't mean anything