Return of Reckoning

Sulorie wrote:Arcing Power is part of the dps am tactic setup at rank 40.

Penril wrote:

Gobtar wrote:

tomato wrote:More or less the only problem the shaman has is destroy confidence.
Which I hope will be looked at in t4.
Other than that heal shaman is great.

They have some major AP issues until better tactics and even then, have to wait till sov to fix that.
They can't cleanse Bright Wizards so they are a bottom tier healer choice.
Destroy Confidence will indeed be a problem unless it's fixed in time.
Multi-Atribute Dependancy- Healing Shammies in tier 4 will have a hard time keeping that AP drain up...something they need because aforementioned AP issues.
Their broken mechanic means being a dedicated healer and trying to incorporate life taps is a waste of AP and time.
Extremely limited on tactics: Restorative Burst, Ain't done yet, eats up two tactics, despite the Racial RUN AWAY! and WBY being awesome it's really hard to fit them in... basically all other tactics are looked over because of this need.
Hybrid is unplayable.

As for DPS:
Yes the Shaman is amazing 1v1 or 1v2, but honestly I couldn't care less about this, even the greatest shamans will get looked over when putting together a competitive group, leading to more shamans soloing, it's a vicious cycle. The AMs continue to slip by, being the king of solo and being an unattractive alternative in all other respects. Blessed are the DPS shamans that heal with lifetaps, but most are too bad to know how to do this effectively.

I think DPS Shamans have a spot in a 1 3 2 setup, helping with extra cleanse/snare puddles/AP drain/extra rez/ok-ish DPS. Several classes that seem "useless" actually shine in certain setups.

As for effectively healing with lifetaps, can it be done? I have tried and failed. I think healing/dps Shamans are fine, but their lifetap healing is not enough to keep a group alive. Even Doks/WPs can do a better job (imho) with Sigmar's Radiance and Transfer Essence. But Shaman/AM? They lack a AoE lifetap, and some skills/tactics like Fury of Da Green, Energy of Vaul and Arcing Power seem kinda "meh".

What are your thoughts?

Penril wrote:

Sulorie wrote:Arcing Power is part of the dps am tactic setup at rank 40.

Yeah, but is it used for keeping allies alive? Or as an extra survivability tool for solo DPS AM?

Legit question.

Qwack wrote:
DPS Shammy lifetaps are extremely effective in a duo, and adequate in a 3 man. But balance issues, as we know, are about 6 and above.

And in reading above to Gobtar's comments he is right. A pure hybrid Shammy just doesn't work. I really tried to make it work for a time with only meager results.

bloodi wrote:Lmao, did this guy just edit the Aza comment in the Op?

It seems like someone has a deathwish.

Sulorie wrote:

Penril wrote:

Sulorie wrote:Arcing Power is part of the dps am tactic setup at rank 40.

Yeah, but is it used for keeping allies alive? Or as an extra survivability tool for solo DPS AM?

Legit question.

A DPS AM, who has no other defensive target than himself, is a bad one.
As bad as those who don't swap to healing gear, when being the only heal class on their team.

Qwack wrote:We are having a very constructive discussion on Shamans here bloodi. If you are here just to insult and mock people, please find another thread to abuse. And with that, you are on IGNORE. Have a nice life.