Return of Reckoning

Jaycub wrote:Maybe it wasn't the best time to roll out this change, but I swear to god if it gets reverted due to retards whining about it.

I really don't see why you have to start calling names. I made this post trying to have an open debate. I don't folower all posts on the forums hence i had no knowlegde about the macht making changes. I ask a couple of questions and then you and the likes start calling ppl whiners and retards. Not very constructive or helpfull.

Azarael wrote:The perfect solution is that DPS suck it the hell up and play support classes instead of expecting everyone else to subsidize their fun.

+1

rmpl wrote: 40min? You're overexaggerating a lot.

#dpsprivilege

Not in the slightest. Last vod, from 14.15 to ~56

Banjomissen wrote:

Jaycub wrote:Maybe it wasn't the best time to roll out this change, but I swear to god if it gets reverted due to retards whining about it.

I really don't see why you have to start calling names. I made this post trying to have an open debate. I don't folower all posts on the forums hence i had no knowlegde about the macht making changes. I ask a couple of questions and then you and the likes start calling ppl whiners and retards. Not very constructive or helpfull.

So when you are PvE farming on one of your DPS classes what stops you from asking a friend on a tank/healer from queing up with you? Or just forming any kind of group? Even if no one in your guild is on /5 can help you find people, and with the increased pressure to group up it should also be easier to find people willing to group up there just so they get faster pops. Alliances were also added to the game hopefully your guild is taking advantage of that as well.

If I offended you by saying retard im sorry, but it's just crazy that people would rather go back to having terrible formed groups in scenarios which just turn into a 10 minute farm fest for the other side if they have any kind of premade or coherent group comp. This change isn't going to make things perfect, but it's a step forward.

If it means people who are solo queing on DPS get thrown under the bus then so be it, they have options which don't include rerolling or playing a different class available to them.

Jaycub wrote: If I offended you by saying retard im sorry, but it's just crazy that people would rather go back to having terrible formed groups in scenarios which just turn into a 10 minute farm fest for the other side if they have any kind of premade or coherent group comp. This change isn't going to make things perfect, but it's a step forward.

If it means people who are solo queing on DPS get thrown under the bus then so be it, they have options which don't include rerolling or playing a different class available to them.

I find it hilarious that people think this will mean balance. Scenarios are still a massive farm or be farm fest. From my point of view the quality has not changed while the quantity has.

I play mainly healers. If my friends are online I play healer. If they are not online I switch to a dps alt as soling on a healer between scenarios is not possible. But i guess I should only play my healers, god forbid I should enjoy some casual alting on a dps.

Nekkma wrote:Scenarios are still a massive farm or be farm fest. From my point of view the quality has not changed while the quantity has.

Exactly my point.

Jaycub wrote: So when you are PvE farming on one of your DPS classes what stops you from asking a friend on a tank/healer from queing up with you? Or just forming any kind of group? Even if no one in your guild is on /5 can help you find people, and with the increased pressure to group up it should also be easier to find people willing to group up there just so they get faster pops. Alliances were also added to the game hopefully your guild is taking advantage of that as well.

If I offended you by saying retard im sorry, but it's just crazy that people would rather go back to having terrible formed groups in scenarios which just turn into a 10 minute farm fest for the other side if they have any kind of premade or coherent group comp. This change isn't going to make things perfect, but it's a step forward..

I'm still waiting for the huge change in SCs with the new match making system. The SC's i've joined on my healer / dps have either been with a premade as the 2nd group or fighting against a premade. So far having a "coherent group comp" vs. a premade haven't helped much.

In general i'm not a fan of forcing ppl to group up, even in an MMO. That's why there's a solo queue button. If this is the direction the Devs have taken i'll respect it an continue to enjoy my ingame time most likely following one of the advices given here.

Nekkma wrote:

Jaycub wrote: If I offended you by saying retard im sorry, but it's just crazy that people would rather go back to having terrible formed groups in scenarios which just turn into a 10 minute farm fest for the other side if they have any kind of premade or coherent group comp. This change isn't going to make things perfect, but it's a step forward.

If it means people who are solo queing on DPS get thrown under the bus then so be it, they have options which don't include rerolling or playing a different class available to them.

I find it hilarious that people think this will mean balance. Scenarios are still a massive farm or be farm fest. From my point of view the quality has not changed while the quantity has.

I play mainly healers. If my friends are online I play healer. If they are not online I switch to a dps alt as soling on a healer between scenarios is not possible. But i guess I should only play my healers, god forbid I should enjoy some casual alting on a dps.

thats not my experience. my scs are much more balanced now and more fun. Especially when queing with a dps and a healer and know there will be tanks in your group made things much better etc.

This is what I am talking about. People dismissing a change because it isn't perfect or doesn't solve all the problems associated with the system it is being implemented in. It's a step forward, hopefully one in many that will help scenarios become better.

It won't magically allow PUG groups to compete with top premades, but they will have a hell of a lot better chance fighting a lot of them. In PUG v PUG scenarios this change is going to even things out a lot.

I reckon it would be alot better for mdps queing solo. I can add that I have mostly played healer and rdps and it feels pretty much the same.