Return of Reckoning

I dont know if someone said it but if you want to improve heal on grace spec and make you more usefull on 6 man make Divine Assault heal restore for all your party.

Bignusty wrote:I dont know if someone said it but if you want to improve heal on grace spec and make you more usefull on 6 man make Divine Assault heal restore for all your party.

That would be a disaster, the ability can already heal somebody to full if you don't get interupted, being able to do that on an 8sec cd for the entire group would not end well.

Ade wrote:

Bignusty wrote:I dont know if someone said it but if you want to improve heal on grace spec and make you more usefull on 6 man make Divine Assault heal restore for all your party.

That would be a disaster, the ability can already heal somebody to full if you don't get interupted, being able to do that on an 8sec cd for the entire group would not end well.

You can even spread the ticks of the channel over your whole group as needed.

Ade wrote:

Bignusty wrote:I dont know if someone said it but if you want to improve heal on grace spec and make you more usefull on 6 man make Divine Assault heal restore for all your party.

That would be a disaster, the ability can already heal somebody to full if you don't get interupted, being able to do that on an 8sec cd for the entire group would not end well.

I have to agree here that would be OP. The thing about grace WP is that its not meant to be a pure heal bot for the team, its a support spec (some people consider support/healer the same, I don't) which means whilst it primarily focuses on its own survival and doing damage on the front line to power its heals, it can decide to support the team with melee attacks that heal people.

PartizanRUS wrote:You don't have to do any deep research to know that Sigmar's Shield is crap and nobody sane used it in pvp builds ever. Any significant r.f. drain is a big No for 2h builds. Either devs can decrease r.f. drain x* times or dont bother.

That is the purpose of this thread, to find a solution to this very problem.

Hmmmmm, This i a purely opinon based argument, but I think you guys need to rethink the strageis used hwne playing Warrior Priest. I honestly can't say how the PvP is in RoR since I have yet regained my strenght as the mighty warrior I once was. But back in the old days a Dual weilding warrior priest would never stay on the frontlines for a very long period of times. Their job was simply to analyse the batlefield and strike where they found a weak point, the awsome thing with a WP at that time was that they had an increadible durability for a short amount of time, a short amount of time being around 1-2 mins.
The tactic used that time could stop 2 choppers charging into your backlines since they would be able to tank all this, they where like the guardiens of the healer line wich was epic.

as said I have no idear how people play the 2H Wp in RoR but that was how we did it, simply strike when it was crucial and defend the healers. now some of you might argue that this is a wasted team member that could have been extra dps or tank, but no. I assure you the tactic was great if the role was played by a good player( like it always is).

So yes book WP might be strong but I still live with the idear that 2H WP is way stronger then any other support class. Simply cause they are as flexible as they are, and well look at it this way, unbeatble for 1-2 mins then yu have to regain strenght for about 30 sec to 1 min and then you go again. now the thing with this stragedy is that you don't heal many teammates but mostly yourself, and the ading is mostly defending the healers rahter then actualy healing.

Now I did not read the 35 pages of replys on this topic so maybe someone pointed this out before so sorry if I'm only quating what hes saying

The warrior priest Custonelloe

Being 'unbeatable for 1-2 mins' has no bearing whatsoever on giving the class a definitive niche. Any half-decent group will focus a 2h WP over ANY other melee class. We're talking about group PvP, not 1v1 (where the WP has ALWAYS been the best)

just to feedback about the new change i saw today a wp+kobs working with parry stack and runfang, its totaly viable, the parry stack + wp buff for him and his def target make the combo very good the dmage that both can soak under heal and also does is alredy good , there wasn't even SM debuffing to 0 the magics resistences. ( i expect that with t4 and kobs be able to bypass more than 60% of enemy armor this would escalte in a 2x better of what it suppose to be)

For me the free tactic is a surpluss not needed, if your dps do less damage but it will done more your tanks and both benefith from the parry stack 1 for his def and 1 for his damages give free buff is senseless for me. This combo work extremly fine. But a dps should not be a tank and for what these 2 classes output feel like it seems to me the wp dps was underrated , and piritual channeling hit hard as i imagined. Ye is ST build and in that sense is not relevant in the wb vs bw fight but, just weir see a wp get focused get for free heal path + aoe detaunt+ damages+ parry stack + other healer heals and also do very good damages with the kobs .

The channel does not hit that hard at all. You only ever use it to lifetap/on tanks. Wp always was beefy if specd right, but 2h offers nothing another class already does better at.