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Re: Something something...
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:47 pm
by Yaliskah
tharluk wrote:the problem is not only here ; how i can fight with my mara lvl17 with stuff armor and weapon from t1, Less than half of my all ability one tactic any other fighting class who are lvl 40 stuff conqueror (for example) and with of their full ability and tactics. you give me the same strengh and just a little bit more HP to fight them. its impossible to have a good balance between this characters to fight.
I understand your concern Tharluk. According this is a MMO, and i suppose you are not alone in the lake in your own faction ( :p ). I mean, teamplay will be more than a word and depending capacities and abilities of each, i suppose you will have to find your way. I suppose too, that in the opposite faction, there are lvl 17 too

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Re: Something something...
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:53 pm
by Pitchrig
I agree with Tharluk, It's fine if you were in a zerg filled with level 40 characters filling your ranks, but if you're trying to solo or as soon as you meet a premade/gank group, the skill, and tactic differences alone between a level 40 player and a T2-mid T3 character are pretty big.
Also, this is just me but as a level 40 it's a bit tedious to have to go back to T2, and T3 just so I can play on T4. (Though I see what the event is trying to achieve) In my opinion, it negates the rewards for trying to reach end-game too since there are some of us who try to reach 32+ just so we can play in the Tier 4 zones.
Enemies will have level 17+ characters too that's true, but since T4 is the most populated, and since they all have to play in T2, and 3, just to go back to their own zones I need to guess which 1 character out of that group isn't level 40, or doesn't know how to play use his own class in order to get a kill on my own. To me it's one of the things that made Age of Reckoning's RVR unique and enjoyable, any zone I went to at any level I at least had a big chance to kill anyone on my own without having to rely on people with higher levels than me.
This game has stealth classes, and plenty suited for fast escapes fighting solo will be unavoidable in most cases (due to Ganking). Though this does exist in higher Tiers like I said with the Skill, and tactics differences etc the difficulty would be amplified. Let's say your group is far and at the enemy castle on siege no time to go back for your level 20 char, depending on the map you would be stuck in that camp until someone decides to come back.
Became a bit more zerg centric too In my opinion pop differences are amplified as compared to before, not to mention from time to time too laggy to be playable since I'm connecting from south east asia. (as soon as we hit 3 warbands, this happened too frequently)
Do think this feature should be kept just for events though.
Just my criticism I won't hate, nor stop playing the game if this gets implemented fully.
Re: Something something...
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:15 pm
by anarchypark
tharluk wrote:the problem is not only here ; how i can fight with my mara lvl17 with stuff armor and weapon from t1, Less than half of my all ability one tactic any other fighting class who are lvl 40 stuff conqueror (for example) and with of their full ability and tactics. you give me the same strengh and just a little bit more HP to fight them. its impossible to have a good balance between this characters to fight.
or you debolster the lvl 40 or you reall bolster the low lvl to do a "good" balance between this 2 characters
when i'm lvl 17, i'm a mere foot soldier.
in the battlefield i met lvl40, he is an army general.
oh ****, i'll scratch his shiny armor, make chips on his sword. so his next encounter could be harder.
that's how foot solders fight( die ).
or
i ran to forum and cry it's not fair.
choice is yours.
if you survive this, someday you will kill army generals.
Re: Something something...
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:16 pm
by Sulorie
Your weapon dps is bolstered too. With rank 17 you shouldn't use t1 weapons and armor. Wear gear on your level.
Re: Something something...
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:25 pm
by Fractus
Also don't expect to win a team based game by playing solo

Re: Something something...
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:01 pm
by tharluk
anarchypark wrote:tharluk wrote:
i ran to forum and cry it's not fair.
choice is yours.
i never come cry on forum look how many message i've put.... and dont worry the difficulty in fight is not a problem for me but with this event we have a uge one. now play how you want.
Re: Something something...
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:11 pm
by Iskra
Same fail than old server scs
Re: Something something...
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:50 pm
by flintboth
To have a good game we need a good balance : a full group lvl 16 (only) low geared must have a good fight against a full group lvl 40 (only) high geared and some chance to win if the lvl 40 group is not playing good their classes.
If not, new players will leave and game shut down.
If a group lvl 40 win all their fight against all low players groups they will be bored of this game really soonish (or they are really big dudes with a little ego) and they will leave the game too.
We are currently with adults returning back at elementary school playpen, something like that, is not really fair, so you must give some good chance to the childs to win. Or it will not fair and...
Sure they will refine it, hope.
Re: Something something...
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:01 pm
by wargrimnir
flintboth wrote:To have a good game we need a good balance : a full group lvl 16 (only) low geared must have a good fight against a full group lvl 40 (only) high geared and some chance to win if the lvl 40 group is not playing good their classes.
If not, new players will leave and game shut down.
We are currently with adults returning back at elementary school playpen, something like that, is not really fair, so you must give some good chance to the childs to win. Or it will not fair and...
Sure they will refine it, hope.
If you're making full groups of R16 players when the battlefield mixture is R16-R40, that's your problem right there. A full group of R16's are NOT going to be as effective as a mix of players higher ranked. This is still an MMO with all the advantages of leveling and acquiring better gear. Play appropriately, and be happy such a target rich environment in RvR will level you far faster than the dead-zones that we had before.
Re: Something something...
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:53 pm
by mikke
No doubt there was a lot of work of devs and this event might be funny for 1 weekend per month.
But I can't see why kids from kindergarten gotta be able to fight along with universal soldiers all the time.
T2-3 merged was enough. There was some different (from T4) gameplay, I loved it.
And 10 football teams on one field look like tuna salad.