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Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:09 am
by drmordread
Vdova wrote:
Snapcap wrote:I have never one shot anybody. I have been able to kill quickly with Vengeance, Festering Arrow, and Fell the Weak. That's three skills with a long cool down. Are we nerfing the complaint of the week, Is that what we are doing now?
Because that's what happened before, and it didn't work out so well. So tell me what class do you want me to play. Is this to be the Bright Wizard, Ironbreaker and Warrior Priest versus the Marauder, Sorcerer, Disciple of Khaine and Black Orc game that we ended up with before. If so, why even bother?
If You didnt one shoot anyone with fernster+self 20%dmg buff+morale 2+crit,You probably did something wrong or all of Your targets used full TB after rr100 expansion.
People now in t3 expirienced one shooting pretty often.
I dont know why ppl complain about nerf so much. Insted of 4-4,9k fernster crits, they will do 3,5-4,2k. Still hardest hitting abbility in game. Are those numbers low for you? You can still fernster bomb if You want, but at least not one shoot(You need to use fell the weak to finish you target)

because only order gets nerfed. Destro OP or broken mechanics are left in place and to be frank, I am getting tired of it.!

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:10 am
by Yyrd
why cant we talk about the long KD and punts?

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:17 am
by Bretin
- snip fits better in the pounce post -

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:21 am
by Druin
Snapcap wrote:
That's not at all accurate. First, the Skirmish tree is not (was) not better than the Scout tree. You could argue that it's a matter of play style, but not better. Secondly, it's a nerf of a defining skill of the Scout tree rendering it ineffective. Festering Arrow has a 3 second cast; consequently, you are not likely to get two off against a player with even the most basic of RVR skills or overcome the ridiculous AOE healing in WAR. Lastly, there are a number of high damage skills available to other ranged classes that were left unmolested. Why single out one class for a nerf?
It was nerfed because a literal oneshot just shouldn't exist. Saying a tree is now ineffective just because an ability now does 20% less dmg (in the worst case) is just stupid.

Also can't believe that that people are still comparing FA oneshot with Sorc rotation. That OP is just stupid and probably trolling doesn't have to be mentioned I guess.

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:25 am
by Sulorie
Yyrd wrote:IB used to have 5 sec KD. as a side effect to the patch. it became 3. so order lost what it used to have.
It hurts to read such misinformation. IB never had a 5 sec kd on live.

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:44 am
by magter3001
drmordread wrote:
Renork wrote:Why do people continue to use festerbomb as an excuse for balance changes? A class should not be able to one shot another, period.
But its ok for Sorc to two shot though still right? Not gonna nerf my sorc too are you?


Opppss I forgot, only Order gets nerfed.... i should be fine!
Why would you bring up a sorc when BWs do the same thing? In fact, if a BW gets a KotBS, their crit can be increased by up to 20%. On a class that is reliant on crit to do damage, that is pretty damn nice. ;)

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:19 am
by Meralors
Hey boss since I have GM power on dev server, may I be allowed to instant kill people on live? ty!

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:56 am
by gandresch
The Realm that is whining more gets there change and that is destro. It is just how it looks to me but a lot whining seems to lead to a nerf.

FA check (done)
Kotb (edit: probably on destros List)
Slayer (edit: probably on destros List)
Pounce (again)

Prepare for more whining from destro side and probably soon a nerf from devs, since they know now it works even before t4

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:02 am
by Druin
gandresch wrote:The Realm that is whining more gets there change and that is destro. It is just how it looks to me but a lot whining seems to lead to a nerf.

FA check (done)
Kotb (on there List)
Slayer (on there List)
Pounce (again)

Prepare for more whining from destro side and probably soon a nerf from devs, since they know now it works even before t4
Believe me, the Devs won't nerf anything just because someone is whining on the forum.

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:06 am
by magter3001
gandresch wrote:The Realm that is whining more gets there change and that is destro. It is just how it looks to me but a lot whining seems to lead to a nerf.

FA check (done)
Kotb (on there List)
Slayer (on there List)
Pounce (again)

Prepare for more whining from destro side and probably soon a nerf from devs, since they know now it works even before t4
Devs do what is best for the game. How quickly Order forget that Devs wiped Devastator gear for Destro because of the farming that went on.

Also, where did you hear that the devs are going to work on Knights, Slayers, and Pounce? As far as I know, Slayers are already fine where they are with the ID being cleansable. Changes to pounce cannot be made before T4.

Devs are very vary of making changes. Why do you think Aza made only a small balance change? Cuz he knew everyone was going to flip out over the smallest of changes. :/