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Re: Best duo?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:48 am
by katroulitsa
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Re: Best duo?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:56 am
by JediRift
Sulorie wrote:Who says anything else than SW/dps AM on order side should feel ashamed, when talking about the best duos. Followed by dot BW/RP(better cc that WP)
I don't feel ashamed at all. SW damage does not have a leg to stand on compared to BW, and the thing is, it just gets weaker and weaker and weaker come T4. RP has a much better instant cast healing and movement capable healing toolkit than AM also. This is why I said BW/RP and would take BW/RP over SW/AM any day, all day, no question.

Re: Best duo?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:02 am
by wos
Razid1987 wrote:Chosen + Marauder
lol op+op this needs to happen for some odd resion you dont come across this duo as much as u should i would also like a BG+marauder

Re: Best duo?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:27 pm
by Razid1987
wos wrote:
Razid1987 wrote:Chosen + Marauder
lol op+op this needs to happen for some odd resion you dont come across this duo as much as u should i would also like a BG+marauder
well, ive been running it with a friend the last week or two. it's amazing. I as a chosen actually die before the marauder LOL.

Re: Best duo?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:39 pm
by Sulorie
JediRift wrote: I don't feel ashamed at all. SW damage does not have a leg to stand on compared to BW, and the thing is, it just gets weaker and weaker and weaker come T4. RP has a much better instant cast healing and movement capable healing toolkit than AM also. This is why I said BW/RP and would take BW/RP over SW/AM any day, all day, no question.
Duo roaming is small scale, Higher phys mitigation is no issue. The DPS AM does the magical damage, the SW hits harder against low armor targets, all non-healer-tanks. Both bring a good amount of CC to the table, more than BW/RP, which are still ok with stagger/r-kd. Perma healdebuff and a lot snares. Furthermore both deal damage and combined it is more than BW/RP which drops heavily with cleansing.

Re: Best duo?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:46 pm
by Euan
Am and sw r huge threats. They are very mobile and independent. They will beat out anyone easy save for 2 am's. Kite 4 days

Re: Best duo?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:52 pm
by wos
Razid1987 wrote:
wos wrote:
Razid1987 wrote:Chosen + Marauder
lol op+op this needs to happen for some odd resion you dont come across this duo as much as u should i would also like a BG+marauder
well, ive been running it with a friend the last week or two. it's amazing. I as a chosen actually die before the marauder LOL.
lol i was thinking that no mater the tank it would die fist maybe u need a a bg too, two guards on the marauder

Re: Best duo?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:06 pm
by JediRift
Sulorie wrote:
JediRift wrote: I don't feel ashamed at all. SW damage does not have a leg to stand on compared to BW, and the thing is, it just gets weaker and weaker and weaker come T4. RP has a much better instant cast healing and movement capable healing toolkit than AM also. This is why I said BW/RP and would take BW/RP over SW/AM any day, all day, no question.
Duo roaming is small scale, Higher phys mitigation is no issue. The DPS AM does the magical damage, the SW hits harder against low armor targets, all non-healer-tanks. Both bring a good amount of CC to the table, more than BW/RP, which are still ok with stagger/r-kd. Perma healdebuff and a lot snares. Furthermore both deal damage and combined it is more than BW/RP which drops heavily with cleansing.
Agree to disagree, which is fine. My main was a max level Shadow Warrior on live. Whether small scale roaming, scenario or warband, Bright Wizard was better than Shadow Warrior in nearly every way. This scales as you level, and starts really appearing at late T4. Particularly at high RR levels is when it becomes not only obvious, but almost laughable.

I still say BW + RP, but I would even go BW + AM over SW + AM. I am thinking long-term though. In T2 and T3 SW is ok, but they really start crumbling as the armor, wounds and toughness keeps going up. Unless the devs here have made drastic changes, then I stand by my assessment.

Re: Best duo?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:06 pm
by Arslan
Chosen needs gift of montro.
The best duo is the one that is most fun for you. Me and my bro-in-arms were facerolling with WP/WL. We tried SLR/IB but it was too boring for us. KoTBS/WP worked very well but it was not as fun, since my KoTBS was a scrub (rr60's bs rr90's). Now we tried Magus/DoK, but it has bad issues. We will conclude on KoTBS/WP, but we are also ready to try cross-guarding chosens and AM/SW. Btw, healer classes on our duos were dps specced.
Another nice duo is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h9DjIF ... E6FDB65910

Re: Best duo?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:10 pm
by Sulorie
It's not SW vs BW. It's SW+dpsAM vs BW+RP, where the first duo is better overall.
BW+dpsAM has great offense but they are more fragile because 10+% hp backlash and no dedicated healer. Only one weak hot and leech dot while kiting.