SM tweek ideas

[Greatwarden]

Give Whispering Winds equivalent to BOs (give it to WAAAAGH).

Give Big Brawling equivalent to SMs (change Deep Incision tactic, so instead of giving Quick Incision a DoT, it just gives an AoE snare to Phoenix's Wings).

The cooldown decrease component of 'Whispering Winds' might be good from a BO perspective but from a factional perspective it might not be ideal.

Both Order and Destro currently have 1 cooldown decrease ('Whispering Winds' and 'Chop Fasta!') but Order has 2 cooldown increases while Destro has 3.

I'm certainly not saying that any of the cooldown adjusting abilities are in any way similar, but giving Destro another cooldown adjustment ability would probably require Order to get another one too.

Also, SMs may have 'Whispering Winds' (cooldown decrease) but BOs have 'Not in Da Face!' (cooldown increase which, incidentally, is in the same equivalent position in the BO trees as 'Phoenix Wings' is in the SM tree). Currently, only Choppas have a cooldown increase and a cooldown decrease.

I definitely agree that 'Phoenix Wings' needs something but 'Redirected Force' and 'Crushing Advance' are arguably just as bad and they aren't reflected in BOs either.

BOs and SMs are known mirror classes but, if so, they mirrors were deliberately broken. They share the same mechanic but (other than abilities that all tanks share) they are remarkably different. For example, only two of the six blade enchants/bellows actually do the same thing and, of the four that are different, BOs got the group ones while SMs got the single-target ones.

[Coryphaus]

chopa fasta > 2 min cd and no choppa will ever specs it cause wreka tree is trash

wispering winds > 20 s cd

shatter limbs > all other cd increasers in the game and choppa cd inc requires great weapon, affect 1 target only and is an exhaust

bad gas is on melee herder which is bad and so is never really specc'd either

[Greatwarden]

chopa fasta > 2 min cd and no choppa will ever specs it cause wreka tree is trash

wispering winds > 20 s cd

shatter limbs > all other cd increasers in the game and choppa cd inc requires great weapon, affect 1 target only and is an exhaust

bad gas is on melee herder which is bad and so is never really specc'd either

Close! You forgot 'Not in da Face' (BO: specced) and Shield of Reprisal (IB: requires shield, a block or parry and a speced tactic).

I did point out that the cool-down adjustment abilities were not in any way similar or equivalent. The main thing is that they can have a big impact on the game and need to be viewed from a wider perspective.

(Also, 'Bad Gas' still looks astoundingly useful and, being linked to a squig, is safer to use.)