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Re: Why devs don't care about players // Devaststor wipe

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:53 pm
by Shanell
Druin wrote:You want the same gear as players who spend more time in the game than you do ?
We all played liveWAR.

Re: Why devs don't care about players // Devaststor wipe

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:53 pm
by Joan
OldPlayer wrote:
Penril wrote:Do you know WHY grind is a part of any mmo?

hint: so you spend way more time in the game = spend more money in the game.
Simple example: World of Tanks - tons of grind, no real need of money investment unless you want to save your time, extremely popular game.
Most MMO people crave for grind. Those that are not, go for CS or DOTA/LoL. And these two factions (grinders and non-grinders) will never ever understand each other.
World of tanks is no MMORPG.

World of Tanks, alongside War Thunder (WoT came first, so it's more popular) are pretty much the only WW2 Online Tank games.

World of Tanks is made by Russians. Russian (and Asian) MMORPG customs are different than European and American ones (AKA more grindy).

World of Tanks is extremely popular because it's accesible, fast-paced combat and easy to get into but hard to master.

Re: Why devs don't care about players // Devaststor wipe

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:54 pm
by Boozy
Druin wrote:
Antalor wrote: Im not reporting Developers.. I really like them for what they're making (updating ROR.. bringing back to life old WAR). Im not even mad on them.. I just want to show them that not everyone is a no life and not everyone are happy with grinding all time.
You want the same gear as players who spend more time in the game than you do ?
more or less yes if you're building a pvp focused game there should not be large gear gaps it should mostly focus on the skill and tactics of the players

Re: Why devs don't care about players // Devaststor wipe

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:54 pm
by Penril
Druin wrote:
Antalor wrote: Im not reporting Developers.. I really like them for what they're making (updating ROR.. bringing back to life old WAR). Im not even mad on them.. I just want to show them that not everyone is a no life and not everyone are happy with grinding all time.
You want the same gear as players who spend more time in the game than you do ?
In a PvP game, why not? There are other things people could grind for. As Morf suggested in a different thread, maybe have RR go all the way to 100 and as rewards you would get Doomflayer/Warpforged as appearance only gear.

You want to grind? Fine, collect 1000 fashion tokens so you can buy Darkpromise, Tyrant, etc. sets for appearance. Maybe some trophies too.

Re: Why devs don't care about players // Devaststor wipe

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:54 pm
by Antalor
Druin wrote:
Antalor wrote: Im not reporting Developers.. I really like them for what they're making (updating ROR.. bringing back to life old WAR). Im not even mad on them.. I just want to show them that not everyone is a no life and not everyone are happy with grinding all time.
You want the same gear as players who spend more time in the game than you do ?
Not exactly.. you know .. we talking about set not a purple item.. sets need to cost something but not so much.. purple can be only get by players who plays more ofc.. it was always and I think it will stay like this

Re: Why devs don't care about players // Devaststor wipe

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:55 pm
by Vilhelmina
Penril wrote:OP is silly. But there is something that i agree with: why do we need to grind?

We already grinded for 5+ years in olf WAR. The objective of grinding is to keep you in game so you continue paying a sub; however, there are no sub fees in RoR.

It gets worse when you want to level an alt (your realm/guild needs more tanks, healers, etc).

RvR gear should be sold for silver and just require RR.
I said this months ago and still spout it as often as I can.

It would solve SO MUCH of these childish/selfish problems we've encountered like this problem just now.

You hit RR10? Cool, go purchase your Decimator gear for a couple of silver and kick ass with the rest.
You hit RR17? Cool, go purchase your Obliterator gear for a couple of gold and kick ass with the rest.
You hit RR26? Cool, go purchase your Devastator gear for a few gold each and kick ass with the rest.

etc...

No need for bloody PvE Keep Swaps and avoiding fights.

Re: Why devs don't care about players // Devaststor wipe

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:57 pm
by Penril
Azuzu wrote:
I provided you with a counter arguement and would love to hear your opinion. :)
Here is my counter counter argument:



NO U!!!!

:lol:

Jk. I believe my previous post should be enough for you have a counter counter counter argument.

Re: Why devs don't care about players // Devaststor wipe

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:58 pm
by Dragorn7200
Vilhelmina wrote:
Penril wrote:OP is silly. But there is something that i agree with: why do we need to grind?

We already grinded for 5+ years in olf WAR. The objective of grinding is to keep you in game so you continue paying a sub; however, there are no sub fees in RoR.

It gets worse when you want to level an alt (your realm/guild needs more tanks, healers, etc).

RvR gear should be sold for silver and just require RR.
I said this months ago and still spout it as often as I can.

It would solve SO MUCH of these childish/selfish problems we've encountered like this problem just now.

You hit RR10? Cool, go purchase your Decimator gear for a couple of silver and kick ass with the rest.
You hit RR17? Cool, go purchase your Obliterator gear for a couple of gold and kick ass with the rest.
You hit RR26? Cool, go purchase your Devastator gear for a few gold each and kick ass with the rest.

etc...

No need for bloody PvE Keep Swaps and avoiding fights.
But then its too easy..

Re: Why devs don't care about players // Devaststor wipe

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:59 pm
by Ley
It's Because they DO care that they actually had to make this hard decision about the sets.
Calm down, you'll have plenty of time to get them back once the system is implemented again.

Re: Why devs don't care about players // Devaststor wipe

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:59 pm
by Antalor
Vilhelmina wrote:
Penril wrote:OP is silly. But there is something that i agree with: why do we need to grind?

We already grinded for 5+ years in olf WAR. The objective of grinding is to keep you in game so you continue paying a sub; however, there are no sub fees in RoR.

It gets worse when you want to level an alt (your realm/guild needs more tanks, healers, etc).

RvR gear should be sold for silver and just require RR.
I said this months ago and still spout it as often as I can.

It would solve SO MUCH of these childish/selfish problems we've encountered like this problem just now.

You hit RR10? Cool, go purchase your Decimator gear for a couple of silver and kick ass with the rest.
You hit RR17? Cool, go purchase your Obliterator gear for a couple of gold and kick ass with the rest.
You hit RR26? Cool, go purchase your Devastator gear for a few gold each and kick ass with the rest.

etc...

No need for bloody PvE Keep Swaps and avoiding fights.
Right.. sorry for a message before editing. I quoted wrong.