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Re: Patch Notes 13/03/2026
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:05 pm
by kpihuss
Right now, the queue system is great. It allows for an approximate level of balance between both sides — and I say approximate because it’s impossible for it to be perfectly exact.
The GMs have done a good job with the new queue system, and it has improved noticeably compared to the previous one.
While it’s true that premades can still have an advantage over pugs, at least now it’s easier to stand up to them.
As I always say, if you’re going to play a game that is meant to be played as a team, you can’t complain if you choose to play solo. My advice to people who queue scenarios as pugs is this: make groups with your friends and fill the remaining spots with people from /5. You’ll be doing yourselves — and your realm — a favor if you try to play with at least a minimum level of coordination. In general, you’ll make the game more enjoyable not only for yourselves, but also for the opposing side.

Re: Patch Notes 13/03/2026
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:17 pm
by SuperStar
kpihuss wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:05 pm
Right now, the queue system is great. It allows for an approximate level of balance between both sides — and I say approximate because it’s impossible for it to be perfectly exact.
The GMs have done a good job with the new queue system, and it has improved noticeably compared to the previous one.
While it’s true that premades can still have an advantage over pugs, at least now it’s easier to stand up to them.
As I always say, if you’re going to play a game that is meant to be played as a team, you can’t complain if you choose to play solo. My advice to people who queue scenarios as pugs is this: make groups with your friends and fill the remaining spots with people from /5. You’ll be doing yourselves — and your realm — a favor if you try to play with at least a minimum level of coordination. In general, you’ll make the game more enjoyable not only for yourselves, but also for the opposing side.
How about ltp and fight against other premades,
Its a shame.
The match making is broken
Here is the prove:
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... ios?tier=4
Re: Patch Notes 13/03/2026
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:19 pm
by lemao
krumhur wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 3:32 pm
lemao wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 10:09 am
SuperStar wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 9:58 am
Who talked about punishment? If no premade on both side then no pop thats all. If 200 dps on q u alao wont get q so often.
If you wanna play as a premade and no other premade organize or advertise it.
Seems most of us enjoy the non meta lowbie fun solo q sc.
If you want to play with your bis meta friends go to arena.
Dont farm the lowbies. Its a shame and also very boring.
Why should groups who organise and put effort into building a group get no pops when solo players who put in 0 effort get to play the game ?
I'i think I got a better question for you!
Why would people who put so much effort into building a premade want to be matched up with randoms?
I though fighting other premades, and overcoming the greater challenge, was the purpose of premades, am I wrong?
Who says i dont want to get matched vs other premades and just want to play with my frirends ?
Fighting strictly 6v6 or playing in 12vs12/18vs18/24vs24 scs is a huge difference since comps also matter a lot more in stricly 6vs6.
Re: Patch Notes 13/03/2026
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:20 pm
by SuperStar
lemao wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:19 pm
krumhur wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 3:32 pm
lemao wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 10:09 am
Why should groups who organise and put effort into building a group get no pops when solo players who put in 0 effort get to play the game ?
I'i think I got a better question for you!
Why would people who put so much effort into building a premade want to be matched up with randoms?
I though fighting other premades, and overcoming the greater challenge, was the purpose of premades, am I wrong?
Who says i dont want to get matched vs other premades and just want to play with my frirends ?
Fighting strictly 6v6 or playing in 12vs12/18vs18/24vs24 scs is a huge difference since comps also matter a lot more in stricly 6vs6.
Good to hear it. Then separate the pugs vs the premade sc.
The solo ranked and the groupranked were separated for a reason.
Re: Patch Notes 13/03/2026
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:24 pm
by Culexus
It's amazing that it's possible to tell someone opens with Git To Da Choppa from forum posts alone.
Re: Patch Notes 13/03/2026
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:50 pm
by kpihuss
SuperStar wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:17 pm
kpihuss wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:05 pm
Right now, the queue system is great. It allows for an approximate level of balance between both sides — and I say approximate because it’s impossible for it to be perfectly exact.
The GMs have done a good job with the new queue system, and it has improved noticeably compared to the previous one.
While it’s true that premades can still have an advantage over pugs, at least now it’s easier to stand up to them.
As I always say, if you’re going to play a game that is meant to be played as a team, you can’t complain if you choose to play solo. My advice to people who queue scenarios as pugs is this: make groups with your friends and fill the remaining spots with people from /5. You’ll be doing yourselves — and your realm — a favor if you try to play with at least a minimum level of coordination. In general, you’ll make the game more enjoyable not only for yourselves, but also for the opposing side.
How about ltp and fight against other premades,
Its a shame.
The match making is broken
Here is the prove:
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... ios?tier=4
Premades must fight against premades. But if there are not premade on the another side, then Premades must fight against pug.
Because premades cant wait 45 minutes for a pop and a pug only need wait 3 minutes. This is not fair

Re: Patch Notes 13/03/2026
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 5:03 pm
by lemao
kpihuss wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:50 pm
SuperStar wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:17 pm
kpihuss wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:05 pm
Right now, the queue system is great. It allows for an approximate level of balance between both sides — and I say approximate because it’s impossible for it to be perfectly exact.
The GMs have done a good job with the new queue system, and it has improved noticeably compared to the previous one.
While it’s true that premades can still have an advantage over pugs, at least now it’s easier to stand up to them.
As I always say, if you’re going to play a game that is meant to be played as a team, you can’t complain if you choose to play solo. My advice to people who queue scenarios as pugs is this: make groups with your friends and fill the remaining spots with people from /5. You’ll be doing yourselves — and your realm — a favor if you try to play with at least a minimum level of coordination. In general, you’ll make the game more enjoyable not only for yourselves, but also for the opposing side.
How about ltp and fight against other premades,
Its a shame.
The match making is broken
Here is the prove:
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... ios?tier=4
Premades must fight against premades. But if there are not premade on the another side, then Premades must fight against pug.
Because premades cant wait 45 minutes for a pop and a pug only need wait 3 minutes. This is not fair
Spot on.
Re: Patch Notes 13/03/2026
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 5:19 pm
by SuperStar
kpihuss wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:50 pm
SuperStar wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:17 pm
kpihuss wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:05 pm
Right now, the queue system is great. It allows for an approximate level of balance between both sides — and I say approximate because it’s impossible for it to be perfectly exact.
The GMs have done a good job with the new queue system, and it has improved noticeably compared to the previous one.
While it’s true that premades can still have an advantage over pugs, at least now it’s easier to stand up to them.
As I always say, if you’re going to play a game that is meant to be played as a team, you can’t complain if you choose to play solo. My advice to people who queue scenarios as pugs is this: make groups with your friends and fill the remaining spots with people from /5. You’ll be doing yourselves — and your realm — a favor if you try to play with at least a minimum level of coordination. In general, you’ll make the game more enjoyable not only for yourselves, but also for the opposing side.
How about ltp and fight against other premades,
Its a shame.
The match making is broken
Here is the prove:
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... ios?tier=4
Premades must fight against premades. But if there are not premade on the another side, then Premades must fight against pug.
Because premades cant wait 45 minutes for a pop and a pug only need wait 3 minutes. This is not fair
Sadly the premades dodge eachothers they dont like to fight aganist eachother at all. So dont be coward ltp dear premades and fight aganist each other.
Make a dedicated premade sc amd you can fight there. I tell you a secret you wont it will be dead like the group ranked. Because these premades most of it only like easy farm.
And it a shame and pointless.
Kill the newplayer and pug lowbie non meta palyers experience.
Re: Patch Notes 13/03/2026
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 5:30 pm
by Akalukz
I think group rank would work if there was a base requirement to gain Insignia's. Win or Lose you should get 1 or 2.
Re: Patch Notes 13/03/2026
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 5:34 pm
by Nameless
Why ppl bring group ranked each time when we talk about premades.
Group ranked is 6 man v 6 man which is quite different beer compare to 12 v 12 maps.
Premade or not I dont like 6v6 much while i enjoy 12v12 maps dynamics.
So if i premade i just dont like group ranked that is not alternative to 12v12 maps and that has nothing to do with premade dodging or some desire to farm pugs (no most dont)
Ideally there should be possible to pair 2 prems vs 2 prems but tha is quite a long shot so instead punishing ppl that take thiir time to play the game as intended put them at regular queu. Pug /5 premade is not much better than balanced groups matchmaking is doing.
Beside 2-3 good pug players could snowball solo queu scen so hard so certain ppl feels like they are like facing premades everywhere