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Re: BUFF the BG already
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2026 3:42 pm
by yoluigi
I would not bother with Nocturnal he just trolling. Everbody know's BG need more buff for single target dmg abilities and they dont bring the quality buff like IB gives. Sure people play because it's a fun class to play but Chosen/BO require less skill and bring more to the table.
Re: BUFF the BG already
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2026 8:37 pm
by Mvl130
The buffs provided by blackguard are too weak, the dumbest playstyle (chosen/kotbs auras) get better effects for no efforts whatsoever, it's like patches are purposefully encouraging people to stick to the least demanding classes ; also, chosen and kotbs getting that instant super punt for free is extremely annoying to endure, just one button and they put you out of the fight for almost 10 seconds.
It's really appaling the kind of "improvements" that are being made, things get buffed randomly while some classes/specs are just nerfed into the ground or let there to rot for all eternity
Re: BUFF the BG already
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:01 pm
by M0rw47h
BG is DEBUFF tank.
Re: BUFF the BG already
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 2:25 am
by JohnnyWayne
I dont see why you would clame hate is harder to generate than grudge, I think thats blatantly wrong. Still, I'd suggest to give a buff to both mirror classes in 2h specc.
Re: BUFF the BG already
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 3:34 am
by gisborne
M0rw47h wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:01 pm
BG is DEBUFF tank.
What do they debuff that's so great? Because Chosen debuff toughness, resists, strength, etc. to all targets in range, passively. Oh, and wounds.
Re: BUFF the BG already
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 10:52 am
by zgolec
Demonito wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 12:48 am
Exile could be reworked since other tanks can instantly max knockback
Yeah.
Tone it down to range of other punts while at that...
Its ridiculous as it is.
Re: BUFF the BG already
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 11:35 am
by Florian90210
zgolec wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 10:52 am
Demonito wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 12:48 am
Exile could be reworked since other tanks can instantly max knockback
Yeah.
Tone it down to range of other punts while at that...
Its ridiculous as it is.
You have to play BG more so you will understand why BG's punt ability is not that great. 1st you can't even do small push on first contact, that means you may already lose just because of that. Also even though punt have big distance, it's also has low height, that means you can't punt over obstacles. Also if you about to punt someone you locked out of half of your abilities because you can't use hate, you have to keep it at 100 Hate.
Re: BUFF the BG already
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 11:54 am
by zgolec
Florian90210 wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 11:35 am
zgolec wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 10:52 am
Demonito wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 12:48 am
Exile could be reworked since other tanks can instantly max knockback
Yeah.
Tone it down to range of other punts while at that...
Its ridiculous as it is.
You have to play BG more so you will understand why BG's punt ability is not that great. 1st you can't even do small push on first contact, that means you may already lose just because of that. Also even though punt have big distance, it's also has low height, that means you can't punt over obstacles. Also if you about to punt someone you locked out of half of your abilities because you can't use hate, you have to keep it at 100 Hate.
Yeah. I only have 70+ BG and 80+ all other tanks so i dont understand how this works...
Also - IB dont have instant punt either just so you know
Come on. Bring it instant. And tone it down to match other punts, mkay?
Re: BUFF the BG already
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 12:39 pm
by Deadpoet
double post
Re: BUFF the BG already
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 12:42 pm
by Deadpoet
Deadpoet wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 12:39 pm
yoluigi wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 3:42 pm
I would not bother with Nocturnal he just trolling. Everbody know's BG need more buff for single target dmg abilities and they dont bring the quality buff like IB gives. Sure people play because it's a fun class to play but Chosen/BO require less skill and bring more to the table.
This.
There are people who usually oppose any suggestion of changes by default and they convince themselves that they do it based on logic and experience and common sense. It's easy, one can find arguments for anything. Nocturnal appears to me to fall in that category. His incongruous mixture of seemingly peaceful and sensible reasoning with sudden aggressive know-it-all sarcasm is quite unique though.