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Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:30 pm
by Bozzax
Pounce into keeps is bad my vote is remove the bug. Maybe it worked on live but with the same argument PB should be bugged as well
EDIT: didn't work on LIVE so just make it right
Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:31 pm
by Luth
I think he meant something different: you need to see the "feet" (e.g. circle around the feet of the character) instead of just the character (maybe atm the hitbox is checked, dunno).
Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:33 pm
by Bozzax
Keeps are keeps no flying WLs onto walls followed by morale SMs being grouphealed out of los. This breaks the defensive position of defenders
The roleplayer in me would state you never jump as high as you long jump and in a magic realm this is a great argument

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:34 pm
by magter3001
This isn't a problem to medium armored classes or tanks, but it is a problem for light armored classes that have to deal with one of the highest burst classes in the games, pouncing on you and dealing 50%+ of your health in one global cooldown. Get two WLs do that and you instantly die.
My problem is that it wasn't that way on Live at all and I treat it as a bug/abuse the same way an Engineer uses his turrets through walls. The argument that all Mdps should be able to go inside the keep (via picklock) is invalid because that ability has a large cooldown and can be used only every so often while the pounce has only the global cooldown to worry about. In fact, the ability doesn't even work at the moment...
MY issue is more on the fact that the pounce has no cooldown whatsoever. A spammable I-win button is what the WL has been reduced. Watch what all WLs do in scenarios or in Orvr, all they do is spam one button, again and again and again. Isn't there something wrong with that?
Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:34 pm
by magter3001
Bozzax wrote:Pounce into keeps is bad my vote is remove the bug. Maybe it worked on live but with the same argument PB should be bugged as well
It did not work on live...
Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:42 pm
by kintari
Luth wrote:I think he meant something different: you need to see the "feet" (e.g. circle around the feet of the character) instead of just the character (maybe atm the hitbox is checked, dunno).
That is in fact what I meant.
Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:47 pm
by Luth
In this case pouncing on a target at the keepwalls would only be possible, if the enemy stands at the very edge of the wall. So everyone can calm down.

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:46 pm
by Joshwa70
My opinion being a wl is that it is awesome and I will be recruiting wl for my pounce groups. Insta gib everything. Mmmm.... tastey tears.
Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:02 pm
by Razid1987
Bozzax wrote:Keeps are keeps no flying WLs onto walls followed by morale SMs being grouphealed out of los. This breaks the defensive position of defenders
The roleplayer in me would state you never jump as high as you long jump and in a magic realm this is a great argument

But it's magical gravity

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:48 pm
by Bozzax
Ofc