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Re: Suggestions: Group Vs WB, guard, heal and buffs,cleanse

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:23 pm
by Vigfuss
WAR is a game with archetypes. Tank, Heal and DPS.

If people choose to play every class as a DPS the outcome is obvious. Support classes in WAR are a lot of fun to play, and I think your average player just hasn't spent enough time trying to learn them.

Re: Suggestions: Group Vs WB, guard, heal and buffs,cleanse

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:45 pm
by Mez
Penril wrote:
Azarael wrote:Yes, two hand tanks having any viability at all is a crime. Nerf them until they are totally useless and they'll be fine.
While we are at it, remove SnB completely. True tanks go BnB.

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Is that tank in light armor? BnB w/ Focused Offense slotted is the new FOTM. :!:

Re: Suggestions: Group Vs WB, guard, heal and buffs,cleanse

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:48 pm
by Penril
He is wearing Inf gear, but the visual is bugged so he appears semi-naked.

Re: Suggestions: Group Vs WB, guard, heal and buffs,cleanse

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:09 pm
by Soulcheg
And it's obviously Destro character. Nerf them.

Re: Suggestions: Group Vs WB, guard, heal and buffs,cleanse

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:05 pm
by Tesq
there is easy reason that ppl coudl tell you instead troll, make guard go above party set up could lead to some op set up and also to play more bomb/kite oreiented due to fast guard swap.

Force each party to have 2x tank also mean controll the dps in game and how wb behaviour, change core meccanics like los aoe heal, guards etc would results in meta super revolution, somehing war do not need.
As long the system allow you to have nice braw; the paty system work And war party system work a lot better than any other game i saw tough i didn't try daoc.

What does not work are power creep between classes and wrong/missing mirroring.

Re: Suggestions: Group Vs WB, guard, heal and buffs,cleanse

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:38 pm
by skutrug
Azarael wrote:Why do people suddenly think we're open to revolutionizing the fundamental combat mechanics?
... because we know that short of it, the SwordMaster will always be a gimp :D

Re: Suggestions: Group Vs WB, guard, heal and buffs,cleanse

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:53 pm
by Vigfuss
Tesq wrote:there is easy reason that ppl coudl tell you instead troll, make guard go above party set up could lead to some op set up and also to play more bomb/kite oreiented due to fast guard swap.

Force each party to have 2x tank also mean controll the dps in game and how wb behaviour, change core meccanics like los aoe heal, guards etc would results in meta super revolution, somehing war do not need.
As long the system allow you to have nice braw; the paty system work And war party system work a lot better than any other game i saw tough i didn't try daoc.

What does not work are power creep between classes and wrong/missing mirroring.
Yeah it would turn WAR into Rift, where group heals and all buffs affect a whole raid. In Rift's Conquest (the closest thing they have to ORVR) all three realms run around with massive Bomb Group style Zergs. The way WAR is designed is much better, because you can really do something with a 6 man.

Re: Suggestions: Group Vs WB, guard, heal and buffs,cleanse

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:57 pm
by Tesq
i was thinking to a badder exemple -->gw2 but anyway, more than make 6 man work even in big fight im happy that melee dont suck like 99% game around.

Re: Suggestions: Group Vs WB, guard, heal and buffs,cleanse

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:58 pm
by grumcajs
just kick all these horrible WPs from warband and invite true aoe healers - engi brewmasters

I can ask Lesti to spec whole wb of engis for kegs and provide immortality to all order around :D

Re: Suggestions: Group Vs WB, guard, heal and buffs,cleanse

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:24 pm
by Jaycub
grumcajs wrote:just kick all these horrible WPs from warband and invite true aoe healers - engi brewmasters

I can ask Lesti to spec whole wb of engis for kegs and provide immortality to all order around :D
I wonder how healers feel when they look at the scoreboard and they got outhealed by an engineer.
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