Return of Reckoning

vanbuinen77 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:11 pm Wl does need a nerf.

85% ar pen and the best mobility in the game.

vanbuinen77 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:55 pm Wl pet damage needs a nerf as well as it can crit for 1k.

Basicly two players in one.

Battlefield wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:47 pm WL already got a lot of nerfs...I played as a Lion in 20-21 and now I noticed about 5-6 nerfs and after Slayer I don't think it's worth it.

And I'll even say more, I've reached 78rr bought a sovereign and I'm planning to change class.

REWENGA wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 5:13 pm

Battlefield wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:47 pm WL already got a lot of nerfs...I played as a Lion in 20-21 and now I noticed about 5-6 nerfs and after Slayer I don't think it's worth it.

And I'll even say more, I've reached 78rr bought a sovereign and I'm planning to change class.

Yes, probably WL is the weakest and most nerfed class in game, you should change class to have some fun.

Is this ROR forum or some other private server?

Cavaleironegro wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:54 am Why don't you suggest nerfing WL? Or do you not agree with how unbalanced it is? This class has become ridiculous due to how easy it is to do damage using just 1 skill.

Farrul wrote: Mon Jun 02, 2025 4:26 pm

Pahakukka wrote: Mon Jun 02, 2025 12:50 pm

Battlefield wrote: Mon Jun 02, 2025 11:59 am In scenarios when there a lot of melee dps Lion's pet dies too fast from aoe of Choppa, melee SH, Marauder, aoe of Magus in 5 seconds.

So, don't you think it needs to give some damage reduction to Lion's pet from aoe damage? Or increase healing numbers to pet? Or reduce a cooldown on it?

Because the pet is part of the class, like the Marauder's mutated arm.

This is a niche problem, but buffing wl pet any further will essentially kill any remaining dps spec solo roaming on destro side as it is near impossible to counter even as it is. Only thing i have found is high parry/riposte spec to even counter the pet, but then there is very little to do to prevent wl summoning new one. 15 s cd isnt that long. Wl can kite that 15 s fairly easily and pop new pet on the go.

It is not really a niche problem. Pets were incomplete design in AOR and remains so in RoR.

There are many things in Warhammer online that needed more development from Mythic. You can tell the game was incomplete and rushed to be launched by looking at stuff like PETs and unfinished animations etc ( i.e no arrows on bows). Just look at World of Warcraft at that time for a comparison, pets that were viable in large scale battleground battles. Neither Hunters nor Warlocks (pet classes) had to discard pets because of Area of effect damage. It had a solid system.

For pets to be viable in large scale they must mitigate AOE damage to a large extent and be way tankier overall. Especially melee pets, otherwise you get a situation like with the WL pet who is really only viable in smaller scale fights. WL with pets out are observerd in 6 mans roaming the map or solo players but collapses during any zerg battle. Ranged pets are better off since they're further away from harm but still suffers from the fundamental design flaw.

As for 1vs1 for squishy destro dps vs White lions, the Lion pets are powerful in this situation but is none the less in general one of the most flawed aspects of the game, hence the OP has a point. It has to overcompensate in strong ability to hide the fact that it falls short in so many different ways.

In a well crafted pet system the pet would be viable for all content and not a object of complaint in any situation. Just an extension of the class as it should be. In RoRs most competitive content it is replaced by a tactics(loner). This says it all unfortunately.