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Re: Patch Notes 22/05/2025
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 4:52 pm
by Alubert
Farrul wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 4:41 pm
Tyrodan wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 4:04 pm
The other day I called out the balance team for DOKs / WPs outperforming other healing classes already across all types of content...
... and now they get buffed even further. Absorb shield with only 10 secs cd while all other healing classes have 20 secs cd on theirs, while buffing the next heal by 35% ON TOP. And this on top of WPs already getting an insanely good absorb-aura.
Sorry but **** this balance team. Don't care if I get banned. This is bullshit.
Buff to benediction is not a problem, it sucked hard. But ability need to have a shield restriction(iirc last time i checked). Book WP is overtuned.
This is a mele ability if I associate correctly and very high in the middle tree so there is no risk that Book WP will ever use it.
Re: Patch Notes 22/05/2025
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:03 pm
by Alteren
Kylashandra wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 1:05 pm
- Divine Impact - Now undefendable.
An undefendable defense debuff, while DoK version only debuffs parry and is not undefendable, on a class that currently already performs better ...
I'm really against all these undefendable skills. Building up defenses is a RR / gear investment which should not be so easily discarded by undefendable skills. I'm also very not fond of a class supposedly more defensive than DoK getting (currently) also more offensive power than its destro counterpart.
took the words out of my mouth
Re: Patch Notes 22/05/2025
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:04 pm
by Battlefield
Why does Hammer of Sigmar now cost 80 Fury when it used to cost 30 or at least 40 like Wracking Agongy?
https://web.archive.org/web/20090815110 ... aspx?id=12
Re: Patch Notes 22/05/2025
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:11 pm
by Alteren
Tyrodan wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 4:04 pm
The other day I called out the balance team for DOKs / WPs outperforming other healing classes already across all types of content...
... and now they get buffed even further. Absorb shield with only 10 secs cd while all other healing classes have 20 secs cd on theirs, while buffing the next heal by 35% ON TOP. And this on top of WPs already getting an insanely good absorb-aura.
Sorry but **** this balance team. Don't care if I get banned. This is bullshit.
That absorb shield still sucks on DoK. It's high up in the melee heal tree and requires striking someone in melee range, which just doesn't make sense if I am heal spec. Better for me to focus on healing people, not running stupidly into melee which sets back casted heals and/or kills me. Not, could it be useful for shield spec dok, perhaps, except shield spec is an utter joke in PvP and this won't change that.
Re: Patch Notes 22/05/2025
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:23 pm
by Gorezog
Kylashandra wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 1:05 pm
- Divine Impact - Now undefendable.
An undefendable defense debuff, while DoK version only debuffs parry and is not undefendable, on a class that currently already performs better ...
I'm really against all these undefendable skills. Building up defenses is a RR / gear investment which should not be so easily discarded by undefendable skills. I'm also very not fond of a class supposedly more defensive than DoK getting (currently) also more offensive power than its destro counterpart.
Its still a 2s melee cast making it completely worthless, whatever points you may or may not have this isnt an indicator of the WP being OP, its an indicator of terrible design and a bad ability all round.
Incidentally wot blocka on the SH used to be undefendable on live until it was changed, undefendable attacks are not a good design point regardless of how bad the ability still is and was discarded for fairly obvious reasons as a premise by Mythic.
Re: Patch Notes 22/05/2025
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:28 pm
by Tyrodan
Alteren wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:11 pm
That absorb shield still sucks on DoK. It's high up in the melee heal tree and requires striking someone in melee range, which just doesn't make sense if I am heal spec. Better for me to focus on healing people, not running stupidly into melee which sets back casted heals and/or kills me. Not, could it be useful for shield spec dok, perhaps, except shield spec is an utter joke in PvP and this won't change that.
Tell me you never played a ranked 6v6 match without telling me you never played a ranked 6v6 match. Shield doks / wps were absolutely killing it the last couple of years to a point where teams doing training matches agreed beforehand whether both would bring shield wps / doks or none, because of how dominating they were.
Re: Patch Notes 22/05/2025
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:44 pm
by Nelly74
Keep buffing already overpowered classes! Seriously, don’t you think some other classes deserve a bit of love too? What’s up with this policy I just can’t wrap my head around... I thought a DPS rework was supposed to happen, but instead we’re getting it in dribs and drabs—and only for classes that are already way too strong compared to the rest. In the land of promises, we’re starving.
Re: Patch Notes 22/05/2025
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 8:26 pm
by Wuhh
Hazmy wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 4:10 pm
So what will be the golden standard rule here?
Nicely put. So many words between those lines.
Re: Patch Notes 22/05/2025
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 10:15 pm
by Florian90210
xrealming and matchmaking problems not addressed. Bad patch.
Re: Patch Notes 22/05/2025
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 4:04 am
by Alteren
Tyrodan wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:28 pm
Alteren wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:11 pm
That absorb shield still sucks on DoK. It's high up in the melee heal tree and requires striking someone in melee range, which just doesn't make sense if I am heal spec. Better for me to focus on healing people, not running stupidly into melee which sets back casted heals and/or kills me. Not, could it be useful for shield spec dok, perhaps, except shield spec is an utter joke in PvP and this won't change that.
Tell me you never played a ranked 6v6 match without telling me you never played a ranked 6v6 match. Shield doks / wps were absolutely killing it the last couple of years to a point where teams doing training matches agreed beforehand whether both would bring shield wps / doks or none, because of how dominating they were.
We're talking about now, not 2 years ago, mr smartypants. obv it's a very diff class and spec now. believe it or not, there used to not even be a shield spec...wow, i know crazy right
