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Re: Why exactly is Shadow Warrior considered bad?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:04 am
by Sever1n
Just open skillbuilder and compare every spec of SW to other dps. Then open SH and check how many panic buttons they have comoared to SW. Then u will realize why its trash.
Re: Why exactly is Shadow Warrior considered bad?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:26 am
by rejndjer
wachlarz wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:23 pm
rejndjer wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:31 pm
wachlarz wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:25 am
3k dmg Sw make too all targets, because of tac. Mara pull still make 0 dmg. So dont cry about Sw.
how did you pass math in elementary school?
https://imgur.com/a/d2f4OwP
nice specc you have there if SW can crit you with fester for 3k xD dont embarass yourself further pls.
to the guy saying that "squishy" targets get hit for 3.4k-5k i call bullshit, 3.4k maybe doable on a lvl20 with green items from lvl 2, anything more than that very hard.
on guarded dps and good healers, you cannot even crit for over 2k.
P.S. and btw crit is less than 50% which means most of times you dont crit, it's not like it's guaranteed you'll crit

otoh if you get crited every time by fester, maybe you should reduce your ctbc?
Re: Why exactly is Shadow Warrior considered bad?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:26 am
by wachlarz
Sever1n wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:04 am
Just open skillbuilder and compare every spec of SW to other dps. Then open SH and check how many panic buttons they have comoared to SW. Then u will realize why its trash.
So dps I prof is fine. Some1 cry about crit of SW and too is fine. Now mobility is bad ?
Re: Why exactly is Shadow Warrior considered bad?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:31 am
by wachlarz
rejndjer wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:26 am
nice specc you have there if SW can crit you with fester for 3k xD dont embarass yourself further pls.
to the guy saying that "squishy" targets get hit for 3.4k-5k i call bullshit, 3.4k maybe doable on a lvl20 with green items from lvl 2, anything more than that very hard.
on guarded dps and good healers, you cannot even crit for over 2k.
Dont embaress yourself more and check how this skill with tac work.
Re: Why exactly is Shadow Warrior considered bad?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:35 am
by Lileldys
wachlarz wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:23 pm
rejndjer wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:31 pm
wachlarz wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:25 am
3k dmg Sw make too all targets, because of tac. Mara pull still make 0 dmg. So dont cry about Sw.
how did you pass math in elementary school?
https://imgur.com/a/d2f4OwP
Was it too hard to press Z or C in the 3 second wind up?
Re: Why exactly is Shadow Warrior considered bad?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:36 am
by rejndjer
wachlarz wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:31 am
rejndjer wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:26 am
nice specc you have there if SW can crit you with fester for 3k xD dont embarass yourself further pls.
to the guy saying that "squishy" targets get hit for 3.4k-5k i call bullshit, 3.4k maybe doable on a lvl20 with green items from lvl 2, anything more than that very hard.
on guarded dps and good healers, you cannot even crit for over 2k.
Dont embaress yourself more and check how this skill with tac work.
you are so embaressing yourself xD
learn what thoughness is, maybe it will help you
P.S. would be nice if whirling pin was fixed so that self-punt would work 100% of time and not 50%(?) of time.
Re: Why exactly is Shadow Warrior considered bad?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:53 am
by wachlarz
Lileldys wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:35 am
Was it too hard to press Z or C in the 3 second wind up?
Wow Now Sw is weak becaus I dont press Z or C.
Re: Why exactly is Shadow Warrior considered bad?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:28 pm
by Sever1n
wachlarz wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:26 am
Sever1n wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:04 am
Just open skillbuilder and compare every spec of SW to other dps. Then open SH and check how many panic buttons they have comoared to SW. Then u will realize why its trash.
So dps I prof is fine. Some1 cry about crit of SW and too is fine. Now mobility is bad ?
Wut?
Re: Why exactly is Shadow Warrior considered bad?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:34 pm
by Lileldys
Sever1n wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:28 pm
wachlarz wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:26 am
Sever1n wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:04 am
Just open skillbuilder and compare every spec of SW to other dps. Then open SH and check how many panic buttons they have comoared to SW. Then u will realize why its trash.
So dps I prof is fine. Some1 cry about crit of SW and too is fine. Now mobility is bad ?
Wut?
Dude has no clue getting focussed by 1 BW and 1 SW is "proof" its fine with no guard, no detaunt, no dmg reduction. According to him 600dps if you always crit is "good".
Re: Why exactly is Shadow Warrior considered bad?
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:48 pm
by Farrul
Asch126 wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:27 pm
I've seen this mentioned a lot, with no actual reason given outside of "many unskilled players use them", which obviously ain't a reason.
So what is going on exactly?
What is wrong with the class that so many people agree it's just flatout bad?
Well as a complete package it feels quite underwhelming tbh.
Scout: Underperforms compared to other ranged singletarget classes, e.g the other similar bow class(squig herder) have better mobility/utility and thus has a clear purpose as solo roamer/6 man roamer.
Assault: Has a niche purpose as solo roaming but is not a functional melee spec in groups, no access to aoe damage (Sweeping slash is a bad joke, unfortunately) which dooms it.
Skirmish: too little damage and range, needed for the longest time a solid 20% increase to both but instead was crippled further by the nerfed broadhead arrows, final nail in the coffin unfortunately.
Players will keep rolling them( especially new ones or players bored with mains and looking for a challenge) due to the popular elven bow character class fantasy but it is clearly deserving of the title worst dps class in the game(as a complete package). It wouldn't take that much to fix them but seems devs have stopped with class balance.