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Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:35 am
by Paxsanarion
Przepraszam wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:58 pm
Paxsanarion wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:41 pm Hardest class to stay alive on in open RVR in my experience....they dont need any nerfs :-)
Are we playing the same game???
Yes, if you are playing Warhammer Online Return of Reckoning and you are playing in 24 man WB vs other 24 man WB and playing an Archmage healing spec and are target number 1 of destro :-)

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:49 am
by normanis
Kpi wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:47 pm
normanis wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:28 pm shaman has beter tools to survuve than am. am is squshiest healer ingame.
p.s was in city with pugs vs am healers (they where only healers) and we win.
And don't forget about a shaman is small, green with dark clothes, he can hide easy in a lot of places. And AM is tall, with bright colours so it is not possible hide in any place.

try to find a shaman in a city, it is very hard find them :cry:
:)

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:19 am
by Przepraszam
Paxsanarion wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:35 am
Przepraszam wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:58 pm
Paxsanarion wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:41 pm Hardest class to stay alive on in open RVR in my experience....they dont need any nerfs :-)
Are we playing the same game???
Yes, if you are playing Warhammer Online Return of Reckoning and you are playing in 24 man WB vs other 24 man WB and playing an Archmage healing spec and are target number 1 of destro :-)
Sry man i thought you are talking about shammy ;p, otherwise i agree <3

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:43 am
by wachlarz
Destro have 3 healers:
1. to heal U use old stinky meat
2. to heal U use blood transfer or suspecius dark art
3. to heal U use green mushrooms and U dont feel pain
What healer U guard and prottect the most ?

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:48 pm
by Paxsanarion
Przepraszam wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:19 am
Paxsanarion wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:35 am
Przepraszam wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:58 pm

Are we playing the same game???
Yes, if you are playing Warhammer Online Return of Reckoning and you are playing in 24 man WB vs other 24 man WB and playing an Archmage healing spec and are target number 1 of destro :-)
Sry man i thought you are talking about shammy ;p, otherwise i agree <3
No worries M8 :-D I do agree that Shammies are a bit more survivable than AM's :-)

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:10 am
by emiliorv
Kpi wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:32 am
hriam123 wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:47 pm Why ranged dps spec have 2! detaunts, one of them AoE? All ranged dps in game have only 1 detaunt and he is single target. Why WP/DoK aoe detaunt requares tactic and nerfed to 5 sec then? AM/Shaman have 10 without tactics.
This autodetaunt tactic is the most OP tactic of the game, a shamman can scape from a full WB easily
Oh i still remenber when "run away" was "most OP tactic of the game, a shamman can scape from a full WB easily" LMAO

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:15 am
by emiliorv
pvprangergod wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:33 am there is zero argument to have needed to change WP/Dok detaunt. here the basic arguments are laid out and obliterated by one of the best healers on the server: https://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum ... 95&t=45337
Nerfing for the sake of nerf....while OP class/habilities remain untouched...

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:40 pm
by Evilest
There is no much point of having a higher armor value if detaunt is downscaled to account for the higher armor.

If the detaunt itself is too strong then it should be replaced by something different that complements the class(es).