Here we go again, guard bot utility do you mean? What about the other aspect of the game?heybaws wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:46 pm in grp play you already have 4 must have tactics which are 3 target snare, super punt, focused mending and +10%ctbc on arcing swing.
A much better QoL change would be shifting myrmidia's fury with staggering impact so you can use it wih sov +2 and provide more group utility
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun
there are no other aspects in a tank gameplay btwBattlefield wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:57 pmHere we go again, guard bot utility do you mean? What about the other aspect of the game?heybaws wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:46 pm in grp play you already have 4 must have tactics which are 3 target snare, super punt, focused mending and +10%ctbc on arcing swing.
A much better QoL change would be shifting myrmidia's fury with staggering impact so you can use it wih sov +2 and provide more group utility
Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun
As i said above!Battlefield wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:53 pmChosen can use wounds debuff with shield but Kotbs not btw !Tuxedo013 wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:58 pm Short version is 2h=wounds debuff and crit buff, snb version =anti zerg vigilance and focused mending with tactic. All other bulds besides above mentioned are not existant. With TTK decreased due to professional Fortnite players and CS:GO players bellyacking, knight is only slightly afected by it in survivability. My knight is safely shelfed at rr 70 and will be there untill some decent changes come. Till then SM bubble bot and IB chad are much more enjoyable!
Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun
its a short range aoe wound debuff that most of the times is a weak 75 because very few chosen goes for discord path... Knight is a massive easy swing that gives like 120 wound debuff (i think) because is a 13 point ability and also can give an op crit buff for the entire realm, tell me which one is better... is the only thing a snb chosen can do besides aurasBattlefield wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:53 pmChosen can use wounds debuff with shield but Kotbs not btw !Tuxedo013 wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:58 pm Short version is 2h=wounds debuff and crit buff, snb version =anti zerg vigilance and focused mending with tactic. All other bulds besides above mentioned are not existant. With TTK decreased due to professional Fortnite players and CS:GO players bellyacking, knight is only slightly afected by it in survivability. My knight is safely shelfed at rr 70 and will be there untill some decent changes come. Till then SM bubble bot and IB chad are much more enjoyable!
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun
2H Knight really needs old runefang back and mighty soul.
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun
But should be !heybaws wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:35 pmthere are no other aspects in a tank gameplay btwBattlefield wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:57 pmHere we go again, guard bot utility do you mean? What about the other aspect of the game?heybaws wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:46 pm in grp play you already have 4 must have tactics which are 3 target snare, super punt, focused mending and +10%ctbc on arcing swing.
A much better QoL change would be shifting myrmidia's fury with staggering impact so you can use it wih sov +2 and provide more group utility
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun
Numbers are the same absolutely, basic wtihout points is 75 wounds debuff Kotbs and Chosen both ! And Chosens take the Path of Discord too, because it increase spirit damage more resistance debuff/buff, more Ravage damage, incoming heal debuff 25% aura and stagger.diegomess wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:07 amits a short range aoe wound debuff that most of the times is a weak 75 because very few chosen goes for discord path... Knight is a massive easy swing that gives like 120 wound debuff (i think) because is a 13 point ability and also can give an op crit buff for the entire realm, tell me which one is better... is the only thing a snb chosen can do besides aurasBattlefield wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:53 pmChosen can use wounds debuff with shield but Kotbs not btw !Tuxedo013 wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:58 pm Short version is 2h=wounds debuff and crit buff, snb version =anti zerg vigilance and focused mending with tactic. All other bulds besides above mentioned are not existant. With TTK decreased due to professional Fortnite players and CS:GO players bellyacking, knight is only slightly afected by it in survivability. My knight is safely shelfed at rr 70 and will be there untill some decent changes come. Till then SM bubble bot and IB chad are much more enjoyable!
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun
yes but no believe me, almost every chosen takes the mid tree for the knockdown... the right discord tree is very underrated, I am one of the few that takes 13 point in discord.Battlefield wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:18 amNumbers are the same absolutely, basic wtihout points is 75 wounds debuff Kotbs and Chosen both ! And Chosens take the Path of Discord too, because it increase spirit damage more resistance debuff/buff, more Ravage damage, incoming heal debuff 25% aura and stagger.diegomess wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:07 amits a short range aoe wound debuff that most of the times is a weak 75 because very few chosen goes for discord path... Knight is a massive easy swing that gives like 120 wound debuff (i think) because is a 13 point ability and also can give an op crit buff for the entire realm, tell me which one is better... is the only thing a snb chosen can do besides aurasBattlefield wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:53 pm Chosen can use wounds debuff with shield but Kotbs not btw !
also the only utility 2h chosen has is in the mid snb tree "corruptive power" which is the ranked build. So yeah is very uncommon to pick 13 points in discord and get strong wound debuff.
As for SNB? 13 points in mid tree then prob they would take quake, or like you like to say go for the daemonclaw + 50% parry, then they dont spend a single point in discord.
So yeah usually like 90% of the time knight has a stronger wound debuff.
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun
This 2h Kotbs' s build for premade or ranked and Chosen always should take heal debuff aura or it's bad, because it's incoming heal debuff. (Kotbs has outcoming)diegomess wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:30 pmyes but no believe me, almost every chosen takes the mid tree for the knockdown... the right discord tree is very underrated, I am one of the few that takes 13 point in discord.Battlefield wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:18 amNumbers are the same absolutely, basic wtihout points is 75 wounds debuff Kotbs and Chosen both ! And Chosens take the Path of Discord too, because it increase spirit damage more resistance debuff/buff, more Ravage damage, incoming heal debuff 25% aura and stagger.diegomess wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:07 am
its a short range aoe wound debuff that most of the times is a weak 75 because very few chosen goes for discord path... Knight is a massive easy swing that gives like 120 wound debuff (i think) because is a 13 point ability and also can give an op crit buff for the entire realm, tell me which one is better... is the only thing a snb chosen can do besides auras
also the only utility 2h chosen has is in the mid snb tree "corruptive power" which is the ranked build. So yeah is very uncommon to pick 13 points in discord and get strong wound debuff.
As for SNB? 13 points in mid tree then prob they would take quake, or like you like to say go for the daemonclaw + 50% parry, then they dont spend a single point in discord.
So yeah usually like 90% of the time knight has a stronger wound debuff.
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7 points vs 5 points , the differences of wounds debuff are minimal but Chosen can be with shield and range 25ft Kotbs vs 20ft Chosen. Sorry but it's bullshit.
Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun
As i said chosen takes the mid tree in ranked cuz they need knockdown and corruptive power tactic, also left tree to gain more crit and rending blade so it procs more often... no one goes for right tree, also heal debuff aura doesnt stack with any mdps stronger heal debuff skill so its useless... that aura is useful against sc pugs but thats it, you know what does stack with other heal bonuses tho? knight 10% heal buff... or was it 15%?.Battlefield wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:40 pmThis 2h Kotbs' s build for premade or ranked and Chosen always should take heal debuff aura or it's bad, because it's incoming heal debuff. (Kotbs has outcoming)diegomess wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:30 pmyes but no believe me, almost every chosen takes the mid tree for the knockdown... the right discord tree is very underrated, I am one of the few that takes 13 point in discord.Battlefield wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:18 am Numbers are the same absolutely, basic wtihout points is 75 wounds debuff Kotbs and Chosen both ! And Chosens take the Path of Discord too, because it increase spirit damage more resistance debuff/buff, more Ravage damage, incoming heal debuff 25% aura and stagger.
also the only utility 2h chosen has is in the mid snb tree "corruptive power" which is the ranked build. So yeah is very uncommon to pick 13 points in discord and get strong wound debuff.
As for SNB? 13 points in mid tree then prob they would take quake, or like you like to say go for the daemonclaw + 50% parry, then they dont spend a single point in discord.
So yeah usually like 90% of the time knight has a stronger wound debuff.
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7 points vs 5 points , the differences of wounds debuff are minimal but Chosen can be with shield and range 25ft Kotbs vs 20ft Chosen. Sorry but it's bullshit.
You may have more fun with chosen because you are doing more damage and you look amazing but if you think you are not doing much for your team as a knight?? then with chosen you will feel its even worse.
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