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Azarael
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Re: Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

Post#31 » Tue May 05, 2015 9:23 am

Iskavan wrote:why dont the devs . . . i dont know . .. fix that? make things more balanced.
When attempting to balance a game with vast customisation, as in MMORPGs, you end up having to make a choice about which tier and level of skill to balance for. It can safely be said that T1 isn't the tier of choice :P

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sotora
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Re: Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

Post#32 » Tue May 05, 2015 10:04 am

I find it hard to believe. I mean something had to be wrong, maybe lot of bugs like super high amount of not registered melee hits or AM had bugged dmg output or something. I mean AM are good but 1 AM beat 2 dps and a tank? 0_o

Never saw anything like this happen. Usually once 2 ppl are on AM then AM is toasted.

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Re: Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

Post#33 » Tue May 05, 2015 10:19 am

It was pretty much the same in retail. Nobody had enough anti-healer skills, and short of having a high level DPSer to hopefully burst them down they could quite easily take on large groups. The healer's detaunt ability will give a 50% damage penalty to any one target even in RvR, so if you keep the most pressing threat detaunted and halve his damage you can quite easily keep yourself alive and simply eliminate the other enemy targets one by one.

I played a shaman myself in retail, so I remember doing this fondly before graduating to exciting full-time healbot in the higher tiers.

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Soulcheg
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Re: Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

Post#34 » Tue May 05, 2015 11:57 am

How long did we play with our chars in retail's t1? A few days? There was never balance in t1, because t1 never had to be the main tier. It's the introductory tier, and it's not supposed to be the main RvR battlefield. So talking about balancing it - kinda useless.
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Re: Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

Post#35 » Tue May 05, 2015 1:10 pm

Soulcheg wrote:How long did we play with our chars in retail's t1? A few days? There was never balance in t1, because t1 never had to be the main tier. It's the introductory tier, and it's not supposed to be the main RvR battlefield. So talking about balancing it - kinda useless.
That obviously change when t1 its the only tier and we dont play it for a few days, but several months.
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Luth
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Re: Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

Post#36 » Tue May 05, 2015 1:45 pm

I second this. Let's delay the dev progress on T2 further, because someone died in RvR.

Srsly, the people demanding "T1 balance" don't have the slightest clue what a big piece of work this would be and how long it would take.

Additionately: What if crafting and other stuff work one day and "the balancing" changes again? Do the devs need to rebalance everything again, when missing features are implemented?

Gamebreaking bugs like the am/shaman "lazorbeam-off-death" or marauder invincible bug have been fixed in the past, but suggesting a rebalalance of T1, because some classes seem to be* OP is just :lol:

I'm all for balancing and i don't even play an AM/shaman, but everything at the right time.



* "seem to be" because at this point it's still unclear, if it is maybe a bug or simply just a layer-8 problem.
In case of a bug, azaraels combat rework should automatically fix it, in case of layer 8 (hopefully) additional playtime will fix it.

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Re: Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

Post#37 » Tue May 05, 2015 3:26 pm

Wait till lvl13 is introduced with a 25% damage boost to healers.

Problem with balancing is that some classes might seem op in t1-2 but t4 they are usually crap already.
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Re: Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

Post#38 » Tue May 05, 2015 4:12 pm

it was through all time in old WAR: OPA, OPAM on region chat, so it's nothing special that AM is OP
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Sulorie
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Re: Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

Post#39 » Tue May 05, 2015 5:01 pm

Only tough when you go to rvr lake with a class not made for solo play e.g. lacking self healing or stealth/rdps. Get a healer and he can't do ****.

Open your eye's in the lake and you shouldn't have trouble.
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Coryphaus
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Re: Got Rhaped by an Archmage.

Post#40 » Tue May 05, 2015 5:03 pm

Telen is right think about how drastically things change from t1 to t4 doks and wp are underwhelming right now compared to am/rp and sham/zel but in t4 their top tier

Borc's are really strong tanks right now but they fall off so badly, sws are all the rage on ordo arm but later on if it wasn't for their festerbomb shennagins they would would be kinda garbage

The only thing that needs to be fixed here is am dots ticking too frequently which I'm sure aza will fix in the combat rework

We're in this for the long haul guys and blantly op bugs and stupid cheese tactics pulled by certain people are things we have to deal with as alpha testers
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