It's more viable now. But keep in mind the more dmg you do the more you will heal. So having offensive gear still has it's perk
Re: [DoK] Shield Spec Rend Soul Underperforming?
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:11 am
by wachlarz
Luuca wrote: Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:55 am
I ran with 3/3 Dom/Merc, the 25G shield, 750 ish str, defensively RR, low crit.
On test dummies, TE was hitting and healing for about 20% more than an actual player in-game; however, on both players, pets, and NPCs, Rend Soul was very much underperforming. 4 heals of 400? On test dummy it was over 1100.
What Gives? I was running with a Chosen with spirit debuff, tried it on pets mainly, but also a few WL and WE. Not a very good result. Is something broken or am I missing something?
Dummy dont block, dont parry, dont have armor dont run from U, dont stun U when casted, dont punt U, dont reduce your str, dont use healdebuff and dumny dont kill U in one rotation like GOOD WH. That all from Me about mele heal.
Re: [DoK] Shield Spec Rend Soul Underperforming?
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:58 am
by xarfay
Unstoppable1776 wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:05 am
It's more viable now. But keep in mind the more dmg you do the more you will heal. So having offensive gear still has it's perk
Luuca wrote: Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:55 am
I ran with 3/3 Dom/Merc, the 25G shield, 750 ish str, defensively RR, low crit.
On test dummies, TE was hitting and healing for about 20% more than an actual player in-game; however, on both players, pets, and NPCs, Rend Soul was very much underperforming. 4 heals of 400? On test dummy it was over 1100.
What Gives? I was running with a Chosen with spirit debuff, tried it on pets mainly, but also a few WL and WE. Not a very good result. Is something broken or am I missing something?
Dummy dont block, dont parry, dont have armor dont run from U, dont stun U when casted, dont punt U, dont reduce your str, dont use healdebuff and dumny dont kill U in one rotation like GOOD WH. That all from Me about mele heal.
True, test dummies do not have defensive stats nor do they have CC. That said, if I am hitting a player or pet, and doing damage, and getting heals, there was no CC or parry or block, ... only mitigation. I am not basing my theory that heals are weak compared to damage upon being CCd or Parried or blocked, rather upon actual hits and heals on pets, and non-tank classes. While I agree with your point, i.e. heals gained from damage on a test dummy are going to be higher, I disagree that they should be 74% less on a player/player pet.
Re: [DoK] Shield Spec Rend Soul Underperforming?
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:00 pm
by wachlarz
Ok so try Rendsoul on Wh with parry spec and riposte. And check combatlog who kill U and U will be suprised
Re: [DoK] Shield Spec Rend Soul Underperforming?
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:52 am
by Luuca
wachlarz wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:00 pm
Ok so try Rendsoul on Wh with parry spec and riposte. And check combatlog who kill U and U will be suprised
Quite possibly the worst advice ever given aside from any 2-handed chosen advice Ive given.
wachlarz wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:00 pm
Ok so try Rendsoul on Wh with parry spec and riposte. And check combatlog who kill U and U will be suprised
Quite possibly the worst advice ever given aside from any 2-handed chosen advice Ive given.
Ok me sry me give better advice. ASK dummy to detaout U then try make mele heal
Another Gem in the rough. Target selection in RvR is key. Rarely am I going to do anything except detaunt a WH and move on to another target. Attacking a cheese-spec riposet WH is bad advice.
Quite possibly the worst advice ever given aside from any 2-handed chosen advice Ive given.
Ok me sry me give better advice. ASK dummy to detaout U then try make mele heal
Another Gem in the rough. Target selection in RvR is key. Rarely am I going to do anything except detaunt a WH and move on to another target. Attacking a cheese-spec riposet WH is bad advice.
Ask dummy to challange U and test mele heal.
Re: [DoK] Shield Spec Rend Soul Underperforming?
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:47 pm
by Luuca
wachlarz wrote: Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:48 pm
Ask dummy to challange U and test mele heal.
OK, fine.
Wachlarz, will you challenge me so I can test melee heals?
