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Re: The healing debate
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:44 pm
by Bozzax
RP > WP > DOK (KW) > Zeal (outside of once in a million 6v6 and bomb) > AM > SHMY
Tankier, Better AP, Better heals (+15% KOTBS, more RP procs, ED), Higher healcrits (KOTBS5%, IB 10%, SW 7,5%)
Heals and tankiness … heals and happiness
Re: The healing debate
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:47 pm
by Arconnn
Bozzax wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:44 pm
RP > WP > DOK (due to KW) > Zeal (outside of once in a million 6v6 and bomb) > AM > SHMY
Heals and tankiness … heals and happiness
tfw Shaman is rated lowest with arguably 3 of the best tactics in the game
Re: The healing debate
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:50 pm
by Bozzax
Can kite (RA!, WBY?, .. , …) or heal (RB, MM, ADY, GC) neither has room for the famous morale
Re: The healing debate
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:57 pm
by dansari
Bozzax wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:50 pm
Can kite (RA!, WBY?, .. , …) or heal (RB, MM, ADY, GC) neither has room for the famous morale
Why do you need both RA and WBY? And it's not like you need to run all three at the same time in every setup. The versatility makes it attractive.
Re: The healing debate
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:02 pm
by live4treasure
You can run the morale pumping tactic combo for warbands and run RA, WBY, RB and ESM for 6 mans. I don't see the problem here at all, shaman should be much much higher on that list.
Re: The healing debate
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:04 pm
by Bozzax
No 6mans play shamans guess why
(unless all doks and zeles are offline)
Re: The healing debate
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:06 pm
by live4treasure
Dunno. I see shamans in 6 mans a whole lot more than DoKs, for example. It could be that there's simply way more people playing shamans than the other two, but you're going to have to enlighten me on why "no one plays shamans in 6 mans", because I don't see a reason why they'd be a detriment.
Re: The healing debate
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:07 pm
by dansari
Bozzax wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:04 pm
No 6mans play shamans guess why
(unless all doks and zeles are offline)
The same reason no/few 6mans play AM? Because RP/WP or dok/Z synergy is stronger. Doesn't mean sham is garbage tier, though a lot of people seem to think that.
Re: The healing debate
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:07 pm
by Bozzax
As a serious answer: The tactics you list ("run RA, WBY, RB and ESM for 6 mans") dont provde enough burst heals (<1s casttime) vs focus (unless you are up vs pugs). imo ADY!, GC and even possibly GFI are needed for that.
For bombing yes EWGA, GM! and DMMD likely are good picks but again bombing is not about your healing
Re: The healing debate
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:23 pm
by Arconnn
Bozzax wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:07 pm
As a serious answer: The tactics you list ("run RA, WBY, RB and ESM for 6 mans") dont provde enough
burst heals (<1s casttime) vs focus (unless you are up vs pugs). imo ADY!, GC and even possibly GFI are needed for that.
For bombing yes EWGA, GM! and DMMD likely are good picks but again bombing is not about your healing
ye because a heal that takes 0.9 seconds to cast that does 3k isn't enough burst heals