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Re: best performing ranged dps
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:20 pm
by dansari
xtc1999 wrote:dansari wrote:Drbus wrote:SW can make target 100% chance to be crit.. that alone makes it the best.
SH can do the same
Tell me how please, as far as I know it's only the SW that has a 180ini debuff
My understanding is that Not so Fast and conq proc stack
Re: best performing ranged dps
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:25 pm
by Ceithin
dansari wrote:xtc1999 wrote:dansari wrote:
SH can do the same
Tell me how please, as far as I know it's only the SW that has a 180ini debuff
My understanding is that Not so Fast and conq proc stack
No they dont stack
Re: best performing ranged dps
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:26 pm
by xtc1999
dansari wrote:xtc1999 wrote:dansari wrote:
SH can do the same
Tell me how please, as far as I know it's only the SW that has a 180ini debuff
My understanding is that Not so Fast and conq proc stack
its only wrist slash that stacks with all ini debuffs
Re: best performing ranged dps
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:30 pm
by blackwatch1508
DakkenBlakk wrote:
plus SW is the weakest armored and easiest to kill of all the classes on both sides.
... SW has 2x Armor in assault stance. Mine sits at 3340 assault unpoted/buffed.
I vote SW because I like being able to mix it up in Melee, and in my opinion assault really doesn't hurt you RDps if you don't let it. I'll also say try MDPS. Even with 800+ resist and 25% dis these guys still eat me up. A good one will kill you in a time stamp easy. Well a sorc will. A good magnus is a pain to kill too.
Re: best performing ranged dps
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:31 pm
by dansari
xtc1999 wrote:dansari wrote:xtc1999 wrote:
Tell me how please, as far as I know it's only the SW that has a 180ini debuff
My understanding is that Not so Fast and conq proc stack
its only wrist slash that stacks with all ini debuffs
I stand corrected. Technically a ranged dps isn't slotting wrist slash, but that's a technicality

Re: best performing ranged dps
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:49 pm
by geezereur
xtc1999 wrote:dansari wrote:xtc1999 wrote:
Tell me how please, as far as I know it's only the SW that has a 180ini debuff
My understanding is that Not so Fast and conq proc stack
its only wrist slash that stacks with all ini debuffs
Does Wrist Slash stack with ini debuffs from Conq and Beastlord? or only with the Ranged Knockdown one?
Re: best performing ranged dps
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:56 pm
by Aurandilaz
Wrist slash is tactic based debuff. Tactics stack with ability debuffs, as well with moral debuffs.
Conq and BL procs are counted as abilities.
Ability based debuffs are numerous, the grain and salt of debuffing.
Moral based debuffs have short durations and usually limited uptime once a minute.
Tactic based debuffs are the true gems, since they stack with more commonly available ability debuffs, and because how relatively rare it is to be blessed with a tactic that has good uptime and solid debuff values.
There might be rare cases where one ability stacks with another, but usually only the largest debuff is taken into account. And there might be some special snowflake cases where an ability and tactic based debuff might not stack, but can't remember.
Re: best performing ranged dps
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:58 pm
by peterthepan3
Can we have DPS Shaman toughness debuff stacking with BG/Marauder plsss
Re: best performing ranged dps
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:18 pm
by Crymoor
dansari wrote:xtc1999 wrote:dansari wrote:
My understanding is that Not so Fast and conq proc stack
its only wrist slash that stacks with all ini debuffs
I stand corrected. Technically a ranged dps isn't slotting wrist slash, but that's a technicality

You seem to have fundamental misunderstandings quite often. Maybe you should start testing before posting.
@OP SW/DPS AM are the best RDPS for soloing. SW/BW for group play. Sorc is not as strong due to lack of access to the same RKDs and undefendable that BW has, but still the best available to Destro atm.
Re: best performing ranged dps
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:22 pm
by peterthepan3
I honestly think more people need to try defensive Magus for solo...you eat SW (950+ toughness nullifies SW damage completely), BW (Just dot them up, swap to blue horror, and disrupt everything), Engi (disarm, while they have no silence) - and most DPS healers (mediocre/average DPS AMs are easy renown on my magus, as are RPs) after the detaunt change.
Try it ;D