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Re: Best players in the game

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:57 pm
by Azarael
I can't see how the game can still be called a game if NB can automate so much of it.

Re: Best players in the game

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:00 pm
by Grulo
Azarael wrote:I can't see how the game can still be called a game if NB can automate so much of it.
A game of who makes the most effective NB-string? :D

Re: Best players in the game

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:00 pm
by Telen
Azarael wrote:I can't see how the game can still be called a game if NB can automate so much of it.
I had a bw alt that for a laugh I played a sc with all abilities on one button. Topped dps and got 13kb. t3 though.

Re: Best players in the game

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:05 pm
by Grulo
Btw, good players using NB didn't put everything in one string, and never put critical skills there as well.

For example, if you had a 10 sec CD KD, it would be stupid to put it on a string with a "not unstoppable" requirement. You would end up using your KD on a tank or some other irrelevant target instead of waiting a couple seconds and using it on a healer or a near-death target (effectively denying him the chance to pot).

tl;dr: good players that used NB didnt have one long string which did everything. They instead had a couple shorter strings for different situations.

Re: Best players in the game

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:12 pm
by Telen
Grulo wrote:Btw, good players using NB didn't put everything in one string, and never put critical skills there as well.

For example, if you had a 10 sec CD KD, it would be stupid to put it on a string with a "not unstoppable" requirement. You would end up using your KD on a tank or some other irrelevant target instead of waiting a couple seconds and using it on a healer or a near-death target (effectively denying him the chance to pot).

tl;dr: good players that used NB didnt have one long string which did everything. They instead had a couple shorter strings for different situations.
Yeah I did manage to get everything on the naga for each class I played. Things like positional requirements were very effective, backloaded rotations like the bw and preventing dot recast. Thats why I found bw/sorc got the most benefit from nb. Disrupt cast the free skill then recast the disrupted dot again.

Re: Best players in the game

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:14 pm
by Azarael
In light of this, I find it astonishing that Wrath of Heroes has such a poor reputation. Sounds like Mythic just cut to the chase ;D

Re: Best players in the game

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:16 pm
by Grulo
Telen wrote:
Grulo wrote:Btw, good players using NB didn't put everything in one string, and never put critical skills there as well.

For example, if you had a 10 sec CD KD, it would be stupid to put it on a string with a "not unstoppable" requirement. You would end up using your KD on a tank or some other irrelevant target instead of waiting a couple seconds and using it on a healer or a near-death target (effectively denying him the chance to pot).

tl;dr: good players that used NB didnt have one long string which did everything. They instead had a couple shorter strings for different situations.
Yeah I did manage to get everything on the naga for each class I played. Things like positional requirements were very effective, backloaded rotations like the bw and preventing dot recast.
I use a Naga as well. Loved using NB when on my Mara or SW, i would put savagery skills on 1, brutality on 2, monstro on 3 (with the stances and a personal stack conditional of course), and stance-dance like a mofo. Fun times.

Re: Best players in the game

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:18 pm
by Grulo
Azarael wrote:In light of this, I find it astonishing that Wrath of Heroes has such a poor reputation. Sounds like Mythic just cut to the chase ;D
Most of WAR players who hated on WoH never even tried the game (at least most of the guys i asked in the old Bioware forums anyway).

I did enjoy it... until they made it P2W.

Re: Best players in the game

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:19 pm
by Telen
Azarael wrote:In light of this, I find it astonishing that Wrath of Heroes has such a poor reputation. Sounds like Mythic just cut to the chase ;D
It didn't help that mythic came on the forums and stated nb was all fine and legal. Thats when it exploded. I started using it at that point and was suddenly as good as all these players that I then realized had been using it.

Re: Best players in the game

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:24 pm
by Morf
Parwun wrote:

well said.
I still think nerfed buttons deserve a ban :P
I used to use NB to put ap drain and 2 dots on 1 key because of my terrible setup of playing on a laptop with no mouse, no NB would make things harder but i agree it would be better to rid of it.