Improve Talabec Dam

[jorgemarco]

Games should evolve. Old things are no always the best. For a full PvP environment should exist alternatives.

[peterthepan3]

Games should evolve. Old things are no always the best. For a full PvP environment should exist alternatives.

Players should evolve. Expecting rewards/wins is not always the best. For a full PvP environment players should learn to form groups.

[jorgemarco]

Thats so wrong. If you want ppl to desire ur product you must offer a really good one. People dont need to evolve at all, in fact ppl will be always the same, so the product must be better. You talk about groups? Ppl are forming groups, i have my guild, i can play with pugs etc. This game is always played in group in different ways, and thats not a reason to focus in the wrong things that destroyed a lot of good games. Ppl want fun, not an obligation. Once you understand this, things will be better. This game fisrtly offers RvR environment, so has no sense that a lot of main stuff ppl want must be obtained in scs. LOT of ppl dont want to play scs at all and want to be competitive in their best way, i really cant see this is so hard to understand. I proposed the static reward as a POOR solution, but at least we can make shorter the hell of scs to some ppl.

[peterthepan3]

Thats so wrong. If you want ppl to desire ur product you must offer a really good one. People dont need to evolve at all, in fact ppl will be always the same, so the product must be better. You talk about groups? Ppl are forming groups, i have my guild, i can play with pugs etc. This game is always played in group in different ways, and thats not a reason to focus in the wrong things that destroyed a lot of good games. Ppl want fun, not an obligation. Once you understand this, things will be better. This game fisrtly offers RvR environment, so has no sense that a lot of main stuff ppl want must be obtained in scs. LOT of ppl dont want to play scs at all and want to be competitive in their best way, i really cant see this is so hard to understand. I proposed the static reward as a POOR solution, but at least we can make shorter the hell of scs to some ppl.

How audacious of you to demand that things are done so as to tailor to your arrogant, narrow-minded playstyle.

Competitive by leeching in a warband with minimal effort required, I take it?

The game is incredibly easy to gear up in. You have solo queues in scenarios if you don't want a challenge and want easy rewards, what's the problem?
You have a guild? Then group up, do a few scenarios a day, and you'll get your rewards in no time. Simple.

All you seem to do is complain about how tailored to premades the game is, when it couldn't be further from the truth. A typical RoR mentality indicative of the 'GIMME GIMME' attitude so many have displayed as of late.

If you didn't have to do scenarios, what would the allure to scenarios be? Do you want everyone to zerg and leech? Some of us actually want proper PvP, so we should get rewarded for it.

There's a lot of stuff in RvR I want, but I won't probably get for a long time as I rarely ever do RvR. Do I make a thread about it? No: I accept that this is a limitation imposed on myself, by myself, and I adapt, and endure.

Aside: what do you mean 'destroyed a lot of good games'? Small-scale battleground PvP?

[jorgemarco]

Thats what game offers, Zerg. You know it, and the final obetive of this game is this even if you dont like it. More people playing, more zerg. Its a design issue, not a players problem. And now u talk about getting rewards with no effort? I think ppl (maybe not all -the same thing in scs-) are working together to close zones. I can see the effort every day in RvR so u cant blame that spirit. Scs should be for ppl who like the scs, u said what im saying in other words mate.

[peterthepan3]

So basically you want the game to remove small-scale PvP rewards, and have everything revolve around your mindless zergfest that you think equates to PvP.

Right. Watch a few of the RvR videos posted by several zerg guilds, and tell me - honestly - if that is the type of the PvP ROR (NOT WAR, as this isn't WAR) should aspire to revolve around.

I reiterate if you don't like scenarios don't do them, simple. Just understand that you wont get the rewards, or make a class that doesn't need merc. What's hard to understand?

[CegeePegee]

OP question/statement has been answered and this is now more of a whine thread so locking