Return of Reckoning

mohokoner1 wrote:lol... i have rolled destro only... never played an order... but oh well i hear the same stuff on destro side all the time....

Well apparently, you are an unreasonable person for choosing such.

Really the Order are outnumbered?

I'm actually thinking of going Order now for my main if the Dest outnumber the Order players? What class is most needed on Order right now? I would like to make a female dwarf. I like playing on the losing side.

Thank you kind sir! Ofc we win... The word Destruction speaks for it self!

However I disagree with changing just because of that since the solution is much simpler... but I also can't say that you're not welcome to destro side!

My question is why do we even need to know? XD

Because he is the focus of his live

Dirock wrote:I am rolling destro. Tired of fighting two or three warbands and non stop double pre-mades.

Not sure what else to do.

Thank You, we won long time ago Joining destro side is Your first step by right direction

TenTonHammer wrote:

SkyCake wrote:Hm, been a very long time since I've played. This thread convinced me that Order should be my main faction this time. Thanks! Destro is my favorite, so I'm sure I'll jump on them. But, if Order is the current underdog, that's my calling. So much more fun to get that hard win rather than just steam rolling. Of course, it's all personal preference. Best of luck on Destro!

Their is no "underdog"

Its a time of day thing, contrary to what the OP might belive their is no 24/7 3 WB destro zerg running around

Its a time of day thing; somethimes order will be zerging and other times its destro

Thats how its been since the days of live

Arobain wrote:well, there are a few, that just only like to play 1 side, i've NEVER been the villain or bad guy in a game except skyrim lol

Just because you are bad guy it does not mean you are....bad guy

I'm sorry to say this, but you are in denial. Destruction has become increasingly more coordinated and hell-bent on pushing for total domination locks, whereas Order is falling out against each other in region/T4 chat, unable to lock a pairing or even defend a homeland during primetime. Surely this balance may eventually shift depending on who comes back on Order and who leaves Destruction, but for now there is an obvious underdog status for Order, as they lack all tactical leadership that pug WBs on Destruction get. Combine that with active, organised alliance warbands, and have fun raking in the AAO when on Order. It's all we can do for now.

RyanMakara wrote:

TenTonHammer wrote:

SkyCake wrote:Hm, been a very long time since I've played. This thread convinced me that Order should be my main faction this time. Thanks! Destro is my favorite, so I'm sure I'll jump on them. But, if Order is the current underdog, that's my calling. So much more fun to get that hard win rather than just steam rolling. Of course, it's all personal preference. Best of luck on Destro!

Their is no "underdog"

Its a time of day thing, contrary to what the OP might belive their is no 24/7 3 WB destro zerg running around

Its a time of day thing; somethimes order will be zerging and other times its destro

Thats how its been since the days of live

Arobain wrote:well, there are a few, that just only like to play 1 side, i've NEVER been the villain or bad guy in a game except skyrim lol

Just because you are bad guy it does not mean you are....bad guy

I'm sorry to say this, but you are in denial. Destruction has become increasingly more coordinated and hell-bent on pushing for total domination locks, whereas Order is falling out against each other in region/T4 chat, unable to lock a pairing or even defend a homeland during primetime. Surely this balance may eventually shift depending on who comes back on Order and who leaves Destruction, but for now there is an obvious underdog status for Order, as they lack all tactical leadership that pug WBs on Destruction get. Combine that with active, organised alliance warbands, and have fun raking in the AAO when on Order. It's all we can do for now.

Im confused... isnt this the natural flow of good vs evil?
"The forces of light must overcome and prevail!" or something like that. Every movie is like this.

Gnelson82 wrote:

RyanMakara wrote: I'm sorry to say this, but you are in denial. Destruction has become increasingly more coordinated and hell-bent on pushing for total domination locks, whereas Order is falling out against each other in region/T4 chat, unable to lock a pairing or even defend a homeland during primetime. Surely this balance may eventually shift depending on who comes back on Order and who leaves Destruction, but for now there is an obvious underdog status for Order, as they lack all tactical leadership that pug WBs on Destruction get. Combine that with active, organised alliance warbands, and have fun raking in the AAO when on Order. It's all we can do for now.

Im confused... isnt this the natural flow of good vs evil?
"The forces of light must overcome and prevail!" or something like that. Every movie is like this.

There's no issue with it, but a lot of people have a case of Destro fear right now. They assume the constant effort Destruction puts into a total domination lock is eventually going to make so many Order players quit/xrealm that there will only be empty keeps for them to take. Of course this is a slippery slope fallacy, and a lot of Destruction players do not even feel as if they are part of a massive, victory-snatching war effort; because the game has a tendency to balance itself out at various times. Order IS able to lock a pairing at times or even defend a zone properly, but it's a rare occasion that usually happens when the numbers/organisation are equal. Does not take away the fact that Destruction is simply doing better in the RvR campaign right now, for obvious reason; more coordination, better pug WB leaders, and actually learning from their past mistakes, usually during the times when it matters.

RyanMakara wrote:

Gnelson82 wrote:

RyanMakara wrote: I'm sorry to say this, but you are in denial. Destruction has become increasingly more coordinated and hell-bent on pushing for total domination locks, whereas Order is falling out against each other in region/T4 chat, unable to lock a pairing or even defend a homeland during primetime. Surely this balance may eventually shift depending on who comes back on Order and who leaves Destruction, but for now there is an obvious underdog status for Order, as they lack all tactical leadership that pug WBs on Destruction get. Combine that with active, organised alliance warbands, and have fun raking in the AAO when on Order. It's all we can do for now.

Im confused... isnt this the natural flow of good vs evil?
"The forces of light must overcome and prevail!" or something like that. Every movie is like this.

There's no issue with it, but a lot of people have a case of Destro fear right now. They assume the constant effort Destruction puts into a total domination lock is eventually going to make so many Order players quit/xrealm that there will only be empty keeps for them to take. Of course this is a slippery slope fallacy, and a lot of Destruction players do not even feel as if they are part of a massive, victory-snatching war effort; because the game has a tendency to balance itself out at various times. Does not take away the fact that Destruction is simply doing better in the RvR campaign right now, for obvious reason; more coordination, better pug WB leaders, and actually learning from their past mistakes.

Because of the outnumbering issue, maybe we should just do away with the "against all odds" buff on destro-side only?
Or, until further notice?

Gnelson82 wrote:

RyanMakara wrote:

Gnelson82 wrote: Im confused... isnt this the natural flow of good vs evil?
"The forces of light must overcome and prevail!" or something like that. Every movie is like this.

There's no issue with it, but a lot of people have a case of Destro fear right now. They assume the constant effort Destruction puts into a total domination lock is eventually going to make so many Order players quit/xrealm that there will only be empty keeps for them to take. Of course this is a slippery slope fallacy, and a lot of Destruction players do not even feel as if they are part of a massive, victory-snatching war effort; because the game has a tendency to balance itself out at various times. Does not take away the fact that Destruction is simply doing better in the RvR campaign right now, for obvious reason; more coordination, better pug WB leaders, and actually learning from their past mistakes.

Because of the outnumbering issue, maybe we should just do away with the "against all odds" buff on destro-side only?
Or, until further notice?

AAO doesn't do much, except from giving massive gains to outnumbered keep defenders on siege and 6 man groups who roam and are able to beat groups larger than them. No reason to remove it from one realm or the other, since it incentivises people to play against a force larger than their own.