[KOTBS] "Destroy Confidence" tactic discussion

[Shadowgurke]

I think you all need to decide whether you want to talk about T3 or T4. If you go half-half on it you just cause a lot of confusion

[Nameless]

there are 2 healers that provide blessings and one that provide enchantments
so
i would change shatter confidence into removing 2 blessings and 1 enchantment on 10 cd. It would be still stonger and wont nullify shaman healing, although zealots wont like that

[Toldavf]

Interested in why Bretin thinks BO/SM is greater, is it the stat steal > auras? Also knight/Chosen have the best punts in the game with the tactic, which are essential to removing guard.

The certainly have their uses as 2nd tank a black orc has a meaty armour debuff and as penril mentioned are ailment types meaning the snare tend to stick the whole 10 seconds, SM are hex types and so are great for covering more important dots like literally any ailment or BW hexes.

Of course this only really applies to small scale as in war band fights you will probably end up buried in all sorts of debuffs.

[Gachimuchi]

What's your point here?
That the tactic is broken and needs to be nerfed.
Most melee classes in the game can remove enchantments.
Not three at a time. Name another that can.
And Destroy confidence is - ta-daaam - a tactic, which almost no one uses because it would take place of more useful tactics.
Making shaman irrelevant all the while still maintaining usefulness in the absence of this class seems worth a tactic slot to me.
Here is the little kotbs secret for you: most of his core abilities/tactics are utter crap and he gains most of his strength from tactics, which, obviously, have a limit of 4. 3 for now. If you wanna run destroy confidence you need to replace some other important tactic with it, maybe throw out +10% crit? Or runefang, if you're dps tank?
Seems like you have no idea about kotbses strength and weaknesses and all your "knowledge" comes from trying to take down a healed def kotbs on sc first and then crying: OMG ITS SO OP NERF NERF NERF.
Lmao you're so convinced your favorite class is fine you start throwing random, baseless insults my way. I don't think I've seen you in a scenario yet, whether I've just not noticed you because of your little impact or we just don't play at the same time is yet to be seen. If you're going to insult my skill in-game while on the forum atleast do it in a way that is relevant to the topic.

[Valnak]

I miss the good ole days where you'd run Runefang, Emperor's Champ and 65ft ranged Destroy Confidence and use that combo to global sorcs and shamans.

[Soulcheg]

Fck. I thought that this thread about KotBS guides/builds/help, but this is NERF IT INTO THE GROUND NOW BACAUSE MY TOONS DONT HAVE ALL THAT SKILL AND YOUR CLASS CAN SCRATCH ME!!!! another thread. Every thread all of you turning into this shiet.

Why the hell it was moved here? There is nothing useful, and absolutely no help to new players, only mindless whine.

IMAD, BRAHS.

[Toldavf]

there are 2 healers that provide blessings and one that provide enchantments
so
i would change shatter confidence into removing 2 blessings and 1 enchantment on 10 cd. It would be still stonger and wont nullify shaman healing, although zealots wont like that

This is a bad suggestion. In this format all other tanks become irrelevant cause 2 knight spamming this **** in a train would make a target unhealable. Good healing in this game relies on stacked hots you will never keep anybody up with just burst heals. The problem with this tactic is that it removes those hots to efficently. How is a healer meant to do anything if every 5-10 seconds the knight just stip all his hots? at that point a dok can provide may 500 healing a second to a target that's heal debuffed? that's like 1 slayer AA.

The fact is this tactic is to efficient and I'd rather see it nerfed then mirrored as I don't want to kick healing arch mage in the teeth.

[TenTonHammer]

well its mirrored on mara with unstable convulsions but the problem is that

1) no mara specs that high into the brut tree
2) convulsive slashing is a garbage ability

[Styrkarr]

Just a question :

Why speaking so much about a lvl 39 tactic nobody uses because the limit is lvl 32 ?

[Scrilian]

Just a question :

Why speaking so much about a lvl 39 tactic nobody uses because the limit is lvl 32 ?

Because some demand you either nerf it now, based purely on "objective criticism" of it on the now long dead live servers, while we are stuck on the irrelevant to end game tier or you are just being order biased.