Return of Reckoning

Posted: **Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:15 pm**

Penril wrote:Forget about a 2H KD. Just buff Crimson Death from 10% to 15% (after all, a KotBS can stack EA + DT for an effective 20% increase in crit AND while using a SnB, and a SW can buff it to 15% with leading shots).

I wonder if CD can debuff chance to be crit based on hatred (under 50: 5%, with 50: 10%, with 75: 15%, with 100: 20%).

Posted: **Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:35 pm**

Penril wrote:Forget about a 2H KD. Just buff Crimson Death from 10% to 15% (after all, a KotBS can stack EA + DT for an effective 20% increase in crit AND while using a SnB, and a SW can buff it to 15% with leading shots).

I wonder if CD can debuff chance to be crit based on hatred (under 50: 5%, with 50: 10%, with 75: 15%, with 100: 20%).

Posted: **Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:40 pm**

For several reasons already explained in 30 pages. I was ok with a 2H KD as long as it required a tactic (so BGs would have to give up either FwF, HD, SK or UF). But now i think maybe a buff to CD would be better, specially considering all the ways Order can increase their enemies chance to be crit and their own group's crit chance as well (EA, DT, LS).

Posted: **Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:42 pm**

Penril wrote:For several reasons already explained in 30 pages. I was ok with a 2H KD as long as it required a tactic (so BGs would have to give up either FwF, HD, SK or UF). But now i think maybe a buff to CD would be better, specially considering all the ways Order can increase their enemies chance to be crit and their own group's crit chance as well (EA, DT, LS).

If crimson death is to be buffed in anyway, the first thing that needs to be buffed about it is the duration of the crit chance debuff, 5 seconds is rather short

Also buffing CD to 15% will have ordo players complaing about maras with 25-35% crit chance from deeply impaled/feeding on fear and black orcs with gork smash

not that i have any problem with that...just saying

Posted: **Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:46 pm**

The best buff to CD would be a scaling armor penetration effect. But, that is not the primary issue. The primary issue is the lack of a 2h KD, that every other tank in the game has the option for. This is even more notable when the 2h KD is the mirror's most defining ability.

Posted: **Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:48 pm**

CD should just be tweaked to allow it to give at the very least a 100% uptime on the crit debuff to reflect similar mechanics on order.

Posted: **Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:49 pm**

TenTonHammer wrote:
Penril wrote:For several reasons already explained in 30 pages. I was ok with a 2H KD as long as it required a tactic (so BGs would have to give up either FwF, HD, SK or UF). But now i think maybe a buff to CD would be better, specially considering all the ways Order can increase their enemies chance to be crit and their own group's crit chance as well (EA, DT, LS).
If crimson death is to be buffed in anyway, the first thing that needs to be buffed about it is the duration of the crit chance debuff, 5 seconds is rather short

Also buffing CD to 15% will have ordo players complaing about maras with 25-35% crit chance from deeply impaled/feeding on fear and black orcs with gork smash

not that i have any problem with that...just saying

Deeply Impaled and CD shouldn't stack, since they are the same kind of debuff (increases your target's chance to be crit). Only the highest debuff applies. As for FoF and GS, they only affect one player (the mara and the BO respectively). On the other hand...

Leading Shots (core SW skill): +15% chance to crit for his whole group everytime the SW crits, lasts 10 seconds
Encouraged Aim (8 points in Conquest tree for KotBS): aura that increases enemies chance to be crit by 10% (100% uptime)

That's a effective +25% buff to crit almost all the time. If the SW doesn't run LS (or you dont run with a SW at all) then the KotBS can slot Dirty Tricks for an effective +20% crit buff (since DT stacks with EA). Add a SM with a 90+ initiative debuff and... damn.

So yeah, an increase to CD's duration and value might go a long way in making 2H BGs more desirable for certain group setups.

Posted: **Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:02 pm**

Jaycub wrote:CD should just be tweaked to allow it to give at the very least a 100% uptime on the crit debuff to reflect similar mechanics on order.

but the cost is greater for BG who needs to consistently burn 30 hate vs Kotbs who just needs to hold a shield and slap on a guard and run an aura that benefits the class and all the mdps in the group

Posted: **Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:04 pm**

Oh yeah.. because using 30 hatred is such a big issue

Posted: **Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:05 pm**

Don't forget that CD will return Hatred for each target hit.

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