This is so wrong, I have to comment it. Sorry for pulling up a posting from many pages earlier.
If a wrath WP wants to rack up some impressive damage numbers, he'll spec "Soulfire" and "Guilty Soul". Both happen to be AOE DOT abilities. Hint: You apply Guilty Soul DoTs by spamming the wrath AOE ability "Smite".
If you keep spamming those during the entire scenario (zerg-heavy Battle for Praag is perfect) you'll end up with >300k damage but 0 kills. That's what we call fluff damage.
Im afraid you missed context. My statement was related to screen of 6vs6 fight with two good teams and experienced dps wp who for sure was not spamming aoe to pump his fake numbers but all dps he did came from single target.
I couldnt care less and given 50% of your posts on this forum have been in the thread whining about a class you dont play getting something Im starting to get irked.
In the same way that Volgograd hasnt singly resulted in getting the IB nerfed or Svarz getting every class he plays nerfed is that the top players are not indicative of a classes function at its core, a good player can make any turd shine, a really good player can do even more.
So.... you made your point.... repeatedly, now go and get some proof... or dont
I strongly advise you not to post in this thread again.
Theres plenty of players whos feedback was treated far, far worse.
Re: Reintroductions and reflections.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:50 pm
by Nekkma
Yaliskah wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:31 pm
I understand this, please correct me if i'm wrong:
WE must pay a particular attention to the players feelings and angriness, and in the same time, WE must accept silently salt and everything ? Who are we? Servants? We are dedicating our lives for this project and for players in general... None here asks for a thank you. None here ask for glory or gratitude. But there is so much hate... ...really?
What about the thousand of players actually enjoying the game without a single warning ? They are nothing ? Don't we have any respect for them ? Are we torturing them and abusing our power ? Isn't it the playerbase too?
First, of course you, i.e. the staff, should pay attention, and care about, the players' feelings, as you should in all human interactions. Naturally, I am not talking about balancing or other game decisions but rather in the direct communication with players.
Second, no, you should not need to accept people beeing rude to you. However, if you, the staff, decide to punish players when beeing rude to you then you should hold yourself to the same standard. Imo, a minority of the staff has failed in this regard, meaning the majority has not. Nevertheless, the actions of a few will reflect poorly on all as you are part of the same team from the player perspective.
Finally, the climate on the server is not toxic beyond belief as someone above put it, far from it. Having said that, the climate on the forum did lessen my enjoyment of the game. And this is coming from one of those without a single warning, everything is not about unjust bans.
Re: Reintroductions and reflections.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:51 pm
by Zxul
Grulo wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:27 pm
We also would sometimes react wrongly to a player simply because 1 or 2 posts ago some idiot made us mad; this is pretty obvious in threads like Patch/balance notes where people would be warned/banned for simply saying "I agree/disagree with X".
Grulo/Penril, just let me clarify, when posters here are talking about "petty, tyrannical assholes", you are near the top of the list.
"React wrongly to a player simply because 1 or 2 posts ago some idiot made us mad"? Lets look at this thread viewtopic.php?f=100&t=23090, where you issued warning/banned every poster which posted anything besides "great idea Penril".
Re: Reintroductions and reflections.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:56 pm
by Grulo
Zxul wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:51 pm
Grulo/Penril, just let me clarify, when posters here are talking about "petty, tyrannical assholes", you are near the top of the list.
Well, good for you guys then that i haven't been a staff member for several months. I am aware i **** up several times btw (you might have noticed i posted "We **** up" and not "you guys **** up").
Zxul wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:51 pm
Grulo/Penril, just let me clarify, when posters here are talking about "petty, tyrannical assholes", you are near the top of the list.
Well, good for you guys then that i haven't been a staff member for several months. I am aware i **** up several times btw (you might have noticed i posted "We **** up" and not "you guys **** up").
Zxul wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:51 pm
Grulo/Penril, just let me clarify, when posters here are talking about "petty, tyrannical assholes", you are near the top of the list.
Well, good for you guys then that i haven't been a staff member for several months. I am aware i **** up several times btw (you might have noticed i posted "We **** up" and not "you guys **** up").
Well, good for you guys then that i haven't been a staff member for several months. I am aware i **** up several times btw (you might have noticed i posted "We **** up" and not "you guys **** up").
I clicked, was dissapointed. Some community manager you are...
Re: Reintroductions and reflections.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:06 pm
by Azarael
That solutions proposed in the balance forum were not taken does not mean the forum was purposeless. People can barely agree in any topic; if the balance forum were listened to completely we'd either have inaction or design by committee, and if the balance forum were capable of agreeing on absolutely every topic, then we wouldn't have any balance problems in any game, ever. I can say that some decisions were not taken, and others were changed, because of what happened in the balance forum.
Nature of the beast is that someone's vision has to prevail.
Re: Reintroductions and reflections.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:12 pm
by Gravord
Yaliskah wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:31 pm but as far i know, we don't punish anyone to have an opinion... unless i'm completely blind...
Ah, almost forgot about those quality staff responses, sadly topic was closed so have to copy them manual. Its in my topic suggesting changes to scenarios to prevent cowardly playing next to guards for safety and protection instead actually going out to the field and taking the risk.
Wargrimnir: "Know your enemy. If they want to cheese at guards, take the objective and trash them on the forums. Pretty sure that's the real point of tryhard 6v6 around here."
Torquemadra: "No
get away from the other sides spawn." - and also closed topic that was still discussed.
Suprise suprise that was last suggestion topic i made, since it became crystal clear that everyone warning me that theres no point in doing so was right.
Grulo wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:27 pm
We also would sometimes react wrongly to a player simply because 1 or 2 posts ago some idiot made us mad; this is pretty obvious in threads like Patch/balance notes where people would be warned/banned for simply saying "I agree/disagree with X".
Grulo/Penril, just let me clarify, when posters here are talking about "petty, tyrannical assholes", you are near the top of the list.
"React wrongly to a player simply because 1 or 2 posts ago some idiot made us mad"? Lets look at this thread viewtopic.php?f=100&t=23090, where you issued warning/banned every poster which posted anything besides "great idea Penril".
Posters who wrote excellent suggestions like "RIP sorc/bw..."?