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Re: Nerf WH/WE into the ground

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:17 am
by live4treasure
Nelly74 wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2026 7:26 am After reading all 25 pages, I'd say the feedback is pretty unanimous: bringing stealth classes back into focus should be a top priority.

I'd also add that taking a serious look at the Rune Priest, Shaman, Archmage, and Zealot feels just as important.

I've always struggled to understand why the devs put so much effort into making some classes completely overpowered in solo play while, at the same time, telling us that RoR isn't meant to be a solo game.

A bit of cognitive dissonance, perhaps?
Yes, indeed, cognitive dissonance. Since what they do is make them good in group play, and indeed don't pay much attention to solo. Cognitive dissonance should be the name of the server, to be honest.

Re: Nerf WH/WE into the ground

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:18 am
by live4treasure
Nelly74 wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2026 7:26 am After reading all 25 pages, I'd say the feedback is pretty unanimous: bringing stealth classes back into focus should be a top priority.

I'd also add that taking a serious look at the Rune Priest, Shaman, Archmage, and Zealot feels just as important.

I've always struggled to understand why the devs put so much effort into making some classes completely overpowered in solo play while, at the same time, telling us that RoR isn't meant to be a solo game.

A bit of cognitive dissonance, perhaps?
Yes, indeed, cognitive dissonance. Since what they do is make them good in group play, and indeed don't pay much attention to solo. Cognitive dissonance should be the name of the server, to be honest, since there are few word combinations in the english language that can summarise the community quite so well.

Re: Nerf WH/WE into the ground

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:43 am
by ponko22
Farrul wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:14 am ^^
The thing is that DPS healers have almost always been OP in small scale in every MMO, it's in the concept of hot/dot/ranged vs none healing classes that gives the advantage. Its not impossible but harder to balance(shaman/AM are weaker than they used to be).

But Stealth classes dont have to be OP, hence it's a shame that WE in particular never really went under the scrutiny lens of the RoR devs here.

So you hit the nail on the head with that comment, they telling us the game isn't about small scale yet buffing WE in a way that will certainly and mostly be abused and used by these single-target solo WE's feels like hypocrisy tbh, how else to interpret it?
If only the RP/ZLT gets adjusted now, I'm sure the developers are just playing around with the stealth class.

Re: Nerf WH/WE into the ground

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:53 am
by rorswar
That's what I've been saying throughout this and other WE threads.

It's not just stealth classes that need adjusting; rDPS healers are also overpowered on a 1v1 / small-scale basis.

Re: Nerf WH/WE into the ground

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:10 pm
by Nelly74
rorswar wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2026 8:53 am That's what I've been saying throughout this and other WE threads.

It's not just stealth classes that need adjusting; rDPS healers are also overpowered on a 1v1 / small-scale basis.
You're absolutely right. Honestly, when I play my RR86 DPS Shaman, I genuinely feel like I'm cheating. It's even worse on my Rune Priest when I switch to a DPS spec while still wearing my healing gear.
Stealth classes definitely need to be reworked, but the same goes for ranged hybrids. The worst part is that it's completely counterproductive. Why would anyone force themselves to play repetitive and often boring warband gameplay when they can progress much faster,and usually have a lot more fun,playing classes that are blatantly overpowered and often encourage toxic gameplay?

Re: Nerf WH/WE into the ground

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2026 12:08 am
by culland
Shogun4138 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2026 11:43 am Another rage post about getting killed.
Another silly response.

Re: Nerf WH/WE into the ground

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:43 am
by M3z
choppa is just a straight up stronger than WE in every way. I'm so confused. Not even saying nerf choppa. Is it just a low skill community? What's going on here. Would like some guidance.