Return of Reckoning

Destro: Nerf Shatter Limbs!!!
Order: Nah, Shatter Limbs is fine. It's not half as powerful as you think.
Destro: Ok then, move it from the useless melee SH tree and give it to an actual melee class.
Order: NO WAI!!!!11111

Suggestion 2: Remove Shatter Limbs from Slayers and give it to Shadow Warriors.

/discuss

Azarael wrote:fix melee squig herder

Aza making melee SH right now to study it, except some big changes soon.

Shadowgurke wrote:

Tesq wrote:so we need 2x dok to balance 1 order classes in every of our party wonderfull!!

You should run 2 DoKs or at least 1 DoK regardless.

which is still not a good reason to let sl remain as it is.

"bury dots" as no aoe dots, aoe snare, other kind of aoe debuff MULTIPLTE shatter limbs not exist.

Moral 2 is an option if you really need it.
Ye use cleanse m2 so that when dps will came for you you will die badly. Also m2 every 1 min when 2x slayer can keep it up 100% of the time.

Shatter limbs is fine in sc untill you dont find 4x slayer which mean 4x shatter limbs + dots to cleanse which make the up 100% fo the time, throw em on healer and you cant cleanse before 10 sec CD then just die BADLY.
Which is exatly the 99% of what happened in 1.4+

Again, Moral 2 and Groupcleanse. You don't need to fully remove it, but it doesn't have 100% uptime

again m2 is every 1+ min and you cant cleanse if you have a 10 sec CD

All that being said, it might very well be too strong for Warband vs. Warband, I have not enough experience in that area

It is, it was it will be

Penril wrote: Suggestion 2: Remove Shatter Limbs from Slayers and give it to Shadow Warriors.

NO WAI!!!!11111

rmpl wrote:

Penril wrote: Suggestion 2: Remove Shatter Limbs from Slayers and give it to Shadow Warriors.

NO WAI!!!!11111

SWs even have a AoE, 10 point skill in their Assault tree that could function as Shattered Limbs (Sweeping Slash). Makes perfect sense!!!!

Azarael wrote:fix melee squig herder

when melee squig herder will have the same + 50% damages meccanic of slayer tell it to us; we gonna mass re roll aza. Really

Utility is put to balance a lack of something ...when you aredy have ID why you also have shatter limbs? it's just a op addition to something alredy good. Also why the slayer can use runes, give that skill to runepriest at max...

Penril wrote:Destro: Nerf Shatter Limbs!!!
Order: Nah, Shatter Limbs is fine. It's not half as powerful as you think.
Destro: Ok then, move it from the useless melee SH tree and give it to an actual melee class.
Order: NO WAI!!!!11111

Suggestion 2: Remove Shatter Limbs from Slayers and give it to Shadow Warriors.

/discuss

Suggestion 3: Stop trying to mirror classes.

Suggestion 4: Rather take a look at choppa midle tree and make it somewhat competitive, still I wouldn't mind a slight cooldown increase on sl.

And btw., in tier 3 choppa is superior to slayer.

tomato wrote:And btw., in tier 3 choppa is superior to slayer.

That's probably why 2 slayers is the most popular order premade while 2 choppas is as common as 2 melee shs.

Best setup for order is wl/slayer, with slayer running hd.
Please enlighten me, what does make slayer so great in t3?